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Capital Punishment - Right or Wrong?
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This debate is one of the most central to our society. America is one of the only developed nations in the world that continues the practice of state-sponsored execution, otherwise known as capital punishment.

Commonly known as the death penalty, legislation exists in thirty-eight states to perform capital punishment on condemed prisoners. The Supreme Court overturned a ban of the death penalty in 1970 and since then, most states have returned to its usage.

DNA evidence has cleared victims after their execution, and many argue that the cost of killing a prisoner greatly outweigh life in prison.

So, the questions for debate:

1.) Is the use of capital punishment right or wrong? Please justify.

2.) What are the possible alternatives? Are they feasible?

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*I would just like to note that, being Irish, I am not familiar to American law, hence the delay in replying.*

I believe that "Capital Punishment" is a medieval may of dealing with those who break the law. It reminds me of the law that if you were caught stealing, the hand you stole with was cut off. If one kills another and is told that there is no justification for murder of any kind, shouldn't this too aply to the government? A vital point in democracy is that no government is above the law. If murder is against the law, surely it is illegal what the government does, murdering someone.....taking their life away without the consent of the victim...and oft with force..

Surely Life Imprisionment should suffice.
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Great point Aequitas. But as I would rather die than be in captivity all of my life. I believe capital punishment is a fair and just way to punish crime breakers. As for the cutting off the hand, this is just a cruel way of punishment. The life sentence is not an effective way if the subject is wanting to die, or nobody would want to be imprisoned for an eternity.

I say yes, keep the death penalty.
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Many people argue the fact that murder is against he law and that criminals have rights as US Citizens along with us.

While i can see their points and beliefs, I differ.

The Capital punishment system is fair, if only employed in cases where there is no chance of the sentence being wrong. So explicit DNA supporting evidence and no mix-up.

In my opinion, as soon as they kill a citizen of America, they no longer hold the right to be an American. Self defense, working for the government and military should be the only exceptions.
They should lose all protection, other than what is due under the law [Lawyer, Remain Silent...] and a fair trial and haebus corpus... Once they have been convicted by a fair jury and judge, then they lose their status and are potentially animals ready for slaughter.
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In my opinion, as soon as they kill a citizen of America, they no longer hold the right to be an American.


I beg to differ. I quote from the UN Declaration of Human Rights, Article 15 Sub-Section 2:
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No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his nationality nor denied the right to change his nationality


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working for the government and military should be the only exceptions.


Why should these be exceptions? If someone in the Military, who are invading another country, shots a citizen of the country they are invading, is that not murder?
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I don't know what that means......

I hate to be a broken record, but, the UN Declaration for Human Rights also states in Article 5 that
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No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.


I don't know about anyone else but, in my opinion, tying someone down onto a chair that will electrify them or tying someone down on to a table and injecting them with a solution that will kill them is what I would consider inhuman.
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But that's the thing, they will not be left to rot. They will be fed, let outside for some air, be allowed to have some contact with human kind. How people would deny those freedoms to a erson because they committed a crime. Instead, they sentance them to death.

But, since you mentioned being left to rot, I give you this example. Juan Segundo had been on death row since 1986. Source
I see no difference there between death row and a life sentance. So what is the point of killing, unnessecarily.
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In my opinion if you are punished for a crime then the punishment should be what ever crime it was that said persons committed.

If you raped some one you should get raped.

If you killed some one, you should be killed in said manner that you killed them.

If you shot them you get shot
If your strangled them you get strangled.
And so on.

If you stole. Your most expensive or prized possession is to be taken from you. The same with other crimes.

And about the Military input. I and my brother Gra'tua are both members of the United States Marine Corps. And if I am told to kill some one. Then thats what I have to do.
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I accept your input but it, to me, is sounding that you're contradicting yourself.

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I and my brother Gra'tua are both members of the United States Marine Corps. And if I am told to kill some one. Then thats what I have to do.


I understand this, you're told to kill someone, it's your job. But a hitman's job is also to kill someone. So, shouldn't you too be punished? But would you like to die?

Before this you said:

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If you killed some one, you should be killed in said manner that you killed them.


Does this mean that if you shoot someone while serving in the Corps, you too should be shot? This is what I mean by contradicting yourself.

The death penalty is unfair. Perhaps I think differently because I come from and live in a country where the death penalty is not legal. I'm sure many of you come from a state where it is legal and accepted but America, as a leader in the world, should change it's ways and outlaw this old, barbaric method of punishment.
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My two cents. I wrote this in late June for my class, so the last executed criminal is not up to date. Also, ignore any emoticons. That's how the paper was written and the coding doesn't like it.

Since 1608, America or its colonial predecessors have executed 15,592 individuals for capital crimes (Connors).  Four hundred years ago, Captain George Kendall was shot to death in the Jamestown colony for turning spy and passing information to the Spanish.  His treason inducted America into a fraternity of nations that engage in the practice of executing their citizens.  To this day, it is a fraternity America has not retired from, much to the world’s protest (Simon).  Today, treason has been joined by fifty-three other offenses states have ruled deserving of the death penalty (“Supreme Court…” 9).  First-degree murder remains the most common crime for death row inmates (“Crimes…” 1).  On 20 June 2008, Captain Kendall was joined by South Carolina’s James Earl Reed, a black man who represented himself at his trial in the face of circumstantial evidence, as the 15,593 victim of America’s state-sponsored killing system (“Executions in the United States in 2008” 1).  The only way to ensure liberty and fairness for all is to repeal a portion of the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution and pass a bill outlawing capital punishment.

The Fifth Amendment stipulates “… nor [shall a person] be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law…”  Proponents of the death penalty have an immediate and powerful ally in the Constitutional framers, who outlined a single but flawed proviso before the state may execute a citizen that runs contrary to the Declaration of Independence, America’s highest source of moral obligation.  By requiring due process in capital cases, the nation’s first lawmakers, led by James Madison, envisioned a working judicial system that was not clogged with petty offenses such as drug use/abuse or financial squabbles.  The reality of due process for capital offenses is a lengthy process of trial(s), appeals, and so on.  Indeed, the Supreme Court of Florida spends up to fifty percent of its time on death penalty related cases, while it only constitutes three percent of the court’s overall business (Kogan 10).  For the average death row inmate, it takes eleven years from booking to the execution chamber (Akers 3).  Certainly this is not the ideal criminal system that the Founders intended.  Thomas Jefferson, one of the most revered Founding Fathers, largely penned the Declaration of Independence, and it states that no one can be denied “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.”  It would stand to reason that Jefferson followed John Locke’s belief that there is no reason whatsoever that the government may take a life.  So it is suspect that the Constitution outlines due process as the requirement, thereby violating the spirit of America’s most oft-quoted principles.

Clearly the framers of the Constitution did not consult the Declaration of Independence, which has provided moral insight in times of darkness.  This nation has a four hundred year legacy of darkness, part of which our two great documents have stood in opposition.  It is easier to acknowledge the moral high ground inherent to the Declaration and modify the Constitution than it is to continue abusing this country’s most basic principles and promises.  America’s unwavering support of the death penalty forfeits our right to chastise the rest of the world’s human rights abuses, given that our death row population is higher than most others (Simon 2).  In order to bring cohesion to America’s message, Congress must repeal the portion of the Fifth Amendment responsible for the legality of the death penalty and pass a bill at the federal level outlawing it.  It is the duty of America to preserve life, not take it.

Clive S. Smith, director of the United Kingdom’s Reprieve, a charity devoted to the abolition of the death penalty around the world, has argued that America does not have a moral obligation to retain capital punishment as a means of saving lives at all (2).  Smith has refuted the idea altogether and dismissed it as absolutely immoral by claiming if America were really concerned in saving lives, it would reduce the speed limit on the highways to five miles per hour, thereby saving 50,000 lives annually (Smith 2).  Smith’s example illustrates that there is no morality in the defense of capital punishment, since it is so disproportionately applied.  Studies have shown roughly 22,000 homicides are committed in this country per year, yet only an average of 300 people are executed annually (Rosenberg).  On a macro scale, 0.82 prisoners are executed for every 60.3 people murdered.  This is not justice.  Simply put, the percentage of capital offenders to actually be executed is so small in comparison to the number of crimes committed that it is impossible for capital punishment defenders to assign a moral crusader argument for their position without seeking spiritual guidance.

However, even the Bible refutes the idea of a death penalty.  James McCloskey, director of the Centurion Ministries in Princeton, New Jersey, points out in his essay “The Death Penalty Should be Abolished” that Jesus overrode the Old Testament “Eye for an eye” mantra in favor of “… if any one strikes you on one cheek turn the other to him… love your enemies” (70-75).  The government does not punish rape with rape, and it does not burn down the homes of arsonists as an act of retribution (American Civil Liberties Union 4).  Americans who support the death penalty have lost the moral authority based on the most dominant religion two millennia before they were born.  There is no religious, and therefore, no moral basis to argue in support for capital punishment.  From a practical standpoint, American practices regarding capital punishment could be argued as patently immoral in accordance with Christian teachings pulled directly from the Gospel.  Nationally, ninety-four inmates, otherwise scheduled by the government for death, were released in the last decade often at the last minute because of faulty evidence, or testimony reversal (Dutta 1Cool.  There is no moral defense for the death penalty.  There is no higher spiritual call for its implementation.  Therefore, it is only logical to say that in the interest of fostering a better record of human rights protection, the Congress would take action to ban this immoral practice.

Of course there is validity to the opposition’s argument that executing criminals convicted of homicide provides closure and satisfaction to the victim’s family.  This, however, is selfish.  As Justice Thurgood Marshall points out: “I cannot believe that at this stage in our history, the American people would ever knowingly support purposeless vengeance” (qtd. in Grant 26).  That is what capital punishment has become: purposeless violence.  State sponsored executions are cold, dispassionate, and should provide no solace to family or loved ones of the victims of violent crime.  It is true that violence begets violence, as shall be fully explored later (Rosenberg).  The moral thing to do is to end the cycle of violence once and for all; the most obvious candidate for this is the state (Grant 30).

The sheer fact that sentencing is discretionary based on the personal beliefs of district attorneys, judges, and juries is immoral and corrupt enough, but add to the mix that 23 of 29 states where life in prison without parole is a sentencing option have statues barring judges from informing the jury of that option (American Civil Liberties Union 3).  This fact alone is a gross breach of courtroom ethics.  It is like sending a man into the wild without a compass.  These statues plant a seed in the minds of jurors that theirs is an either/or decision: Let a murderer go free or send him to the death chamber.  The law as it stands in a majority of states that practice the death penalty bars juries from being informed of a middle-ground that can literally make the difference between life and death.  Take the fact that states cannot even agree with each other over what constitutes a capital offense and that the same crime performed in a state without the death penalty merits no execution at all, and a clear grey area is left for personal crusaders, vendettas, and discrimination.  Justice may be blind, but the administrators certainly are not.  The elemental morality inherent to the American system of compassionate justice is missing in capital trials and Congress must take action to restore fairness through a partial repeal of the Fifth Amendment.

Perhaps more tangible than the social contract or moral implications, the economic burden of capital punishment on this nation is certainly worth examining.  For any given fifteen year period where 130 people are executed annually, the state of Florida spends $57 million on the death penalty, though it only costs $9.5 million to keep all death row inmates in prison for life (Potter 2). The extra $47.5 million could go to educational, welfare, or healthcare reform.  Another example, Texas spends an average of $2.3 million per execution, though it only costs $760,000 to keep an inmate housed in a maximum security single-person cell for forty years (Potter 2). Texas leads the nation in terms of state sponsored execution, and a federal ban on capital punishment would pump two-thirds the cost of execution back into its annual budget (Potter 2).

Ohio once spent ten percent of its total capital crimes budget to execute one man, a death penalty volunteer, money that never would have been spent had it not been for capital punishment and could have been pledged to more humanitarian causes (McCloskey 73). Some of the costs that would be eliminated in Ohio by the outlawing of capital punishment include an average of $18,147 of overtime for security guards, $2,250 for State Highway Patrol officers, an unknown amount for twenty-five to thirty public information officials who have to work the night of an execution, $5,320 for a satellite truck so the official announcement can reach outside media, and payment of five-fifteen prosecutors who work on a single case (McCloskey 73). In thirty-eight states, similar costs choke the legal system (McCloskey 74).  One Washington state county went $700,000 in of debt in order to execute a man (McCloskey 74).

During a two year period from 1992-3, Duke University examined seventy-seven capital crimes cases in North Carolina to determine the average cost of executing an individual. (Simon 2).  Their findings determined an average cost of $2.16 million for a complete execution, whereas it would only cost $1 million on average for the costs of trial, and the sentence of life in prison (Simon 2). This study largely confirms the economic model presented in Texas.  The cost burdens small towns, as was the case in Washington, and deflects money from nobler projects.  Roughly a third of the cost necessary to carry out capital punishment is necessary to hold a person in prison for the rest of their life.  However, there are glaring exceptions, as was the case of Timothy McVeigh.  His trail, appeals, and eventual execution cost Oklahoma $13.8 million (Simon 2).  Doing the math, I find that the cost of killing Timothy McVeigh would pay for 230 Habitat for Humanity homes at an average cost of $60,000 a piece in the United States and house at least 920 people (Habitat for Humanity Fact Sheet 1).

One point must be conceded to the defenders of capital punishment on the basis of race and the “fairness” inherent to it: It is true that more whites (45.3%) than blacks (41.7%) are currently living on death row, and that more (630 whites to 376 blacks) have been executed since the death penalty’s reinstatement.  However, this does not explain why the United States General Accounting Office issued the following statement in 1990: "In 82% of the studies, race of the victim was found to influenc the likelihood of being charged with capital murder or receiving the death penalty, i.e., those who murdered whites were found more likely to be sentenced to death than those who murdered blacks" (“Race of…”1).
Perhaps the evidence for this statement lies in the raw data.  Blacks make up 12% of the general United States population, but 35% of the overall death row (American Civil Liberties Union 1).  Whites, on the other hand, represent 72% of the general population, but make up less than 50% of that on death row (American Civil Liberties Union 1).  That lends itself to the majority opinion in Furman v. Georgia: “The death sentence is disproportion-nately imposed and carried out on the poor, the Negro, and the members of unpopular groups” (qtd. in Grant 2Cool.

The American Civil Liberties Union has determined that “… in Florida, a defendant’s odds of receiving a death sentence are 4.8 times higher if the victim was white than if the victim was black” (2).  The study also finds similar multipliers in Illinois, Oklahoma, North Carolina, and Mississippi (American Civil Liberties Union 2). Dis-crimination is alive and well in the decision-making process for who is sentenced to death in Kentucky, there is no way for supporters of capital punishment to deny that.  Since Kentucky’s 1975 reinstatement of the death penalty, a thousand blacks have been murdered there (American Civil Liberties Union 2).  Until 1999, every single death row inmate was sentenced for the murder of a white victim; none for the murder of a black individual (American Civil Liberties Union 2).

When the Supreme Court struck down the death penalty in 1972, it called the selection process for those being executed “arbitrary” and “capricious” as well as “harsh and freakish” (qtd. in McCloskey 72).  Indeed, take rape as an example.  Rape occurs daily in untold numbers, and from 1930 to 1980, 455 men were executed as a result of their guilty convictions (McCloskey 73).  Of these 455, 90% were black despite making up a mere 10% of the population for most of this period of history (McCloskey 73).  Or, perhaps, more revealing of the abuses of the legal system: 1991 was the first case of a white man being executed for killing a black man in fifty years (McCloskey 74).  The highest court in the land at one point in the whole debate admitted that the system was “arbitrary” and yet overturned its own decision four years later under a different political climate (McCloskey 74).  Congress must have the courage to reaffirm the court’s original decision in order to end “capricious” abuses and human bias inherent to the selection of the execution of criminals.

While America goes to great pains to remain sovereign in the age of the United Nations and the “coming of age” of other world players, it remains the only western industrialized nation to continue the practice of capital punishment (American Civil Liberties Union 1).  In fact, the European Parliament has passed resolutions urging the country to abandon capital punishment (Weier 3).  The underlying argument behind their plea has been summed up by German Justice Minister Herta Daeubler-Gmelin: “The Americans do not hesitate, proud as they are of their democratic tradition, to reproach other countries over human rights violations” (qtd. in Weier 3). The United States has the second or third largest death row roster, second only to Pakistan and according to some studies: China (Weier 3).  It also retains the ability to execute people considered mentally retarded (Weier 3).

The United States is also one of seven nations reported by Amnesty International to have executed a minor since 1990.  The others include Yemen, Pakistan, Nigeria, The Democratic Republic of Congo, Saudi Arabia, and Iran.   The International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child, the African Character on the Rights and Welfare of the Child, and the American Convention of Human Rights all expressly forbid the imposition of capital punishment on children who were under 18 when their crime was committed. However, this has not stopped America yet.  In fact, America leads the way of child executions in the world: 19 of the 38 recorded between 1990 and 2004 occurred in the United States (Weier 1-10).

In 1997, the United Nations appointed a special investigator, Bacre Waly Ndiaye, an attorney from Senegal, to evaluate the death penalty in America (Weier 5).  His report to the UN Commission on Human Rights, accuses the United States of “unfair, arbitrary, and racist use of capital punishment” (qtd. in Weier 5).  Indeed, Ndiaye’s claims go so far as to say “… allegations of racial discrimination in the imposition of death sentences are particularly serious in south states” (qtd. in Weier 5).  Additionally, a petition from more than three million people from 130 countries reached the United Nations General Assembly calling for an end to all executions (Weier 7).  In 2000, Secretary-General Kofi Annan called for a moratorium on capital punishment around the world, citing its usage as “too absolute, too irreversible” (qtd. in Weier 7).  As of June 2008, the United States has continued its use of capital punishment despite international concern (Weier 9).

Additionally, observers have taken note of America’s treatment of foreign nationals in cases of capital crimes.  America’s hold over the death penalty is turning the nation into an international pariah as accusations of lawbreaking and human rights violation surround the detention of some 118 foreign nationals on death row and the execution of 21 such individuals since 1976 (Weier 2).  According to Article 36 of the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations, ratified by America in 1969, all foreign nationals held in American custody are to have the right to consult with their home country’s consulate “without delay” (qtd. in Weier 2).  Mark Warren of Human Rights Research, a Canadian advocacy center, has found this is generally not the case (Weier 3).  Congress knowingly passed an international convention that it cannot de-ratify and is honor-bound to adhere to.  However, if, as Mark Warren contends, foreign nationals are not being informed of their basic rights on American soil in most cases, the cards are automatically stacked against them.  By the time a foreign national reaches sentencing and faces capital punishment, if their consulate gets word of the proceedings, there is little that can be done by way of extradition or appeal to the American justice system (Weier 3).

Supporters of capital punishment have always harped on the deterrence value.  For example, it is interesting to note that England once had public executions for a whole host of crimes, the least of which was pick-pocketing (Simon 2).  Obviously, the minority that did not go around pick-pocketing were deterred from doing so because it was a capital offense!  True, pick-pocketing still went on, even at public executions (Simon 2).  It is a fact that executions did not curb petty theft (Simon 2).  It is a fact that the death penalty is not decreasing crime rates in America (Simon 2).  In fact, several psychologists have found that violent behavior towards other- especially when performed by adolescents, as in the case of the Columbine High School massacre- resort to violence only as an alternative to suicide (Grant 2Cool.

Those who argue the deterring effect of capital punishment have not done the math: 22,000 homicides and non-negligent manslaughters are committed annually in America (Potter 3).  Only two-thirds of these, roughly 15,000, ever see a suspect arrested (Potter 3).  And of that, only 45%, roughly 10,000, of all accused are ever convicted (Potter 3).  According to supporters, the United States uses the death penalty as a deterrent to homicide.  The fallacy in that argument comes from the fact that the United States has more homicide than it knows what to do with despite having a deterrent (Potter 4).  Gary W. Potter, a former Senator and current professor of Justice and Police Studies, sums up the point:
"Put simply, the dilemma is this: there is no crime control issue we know more about than the death penalty and there is no crime control issue where the scientific research has been more ignored by decision-makers and the public than the death penalty" (Potter 6).

Less damning than the hard data but no less meaningful, America has a regional problem in terms of capital punishment.  The logical recourse is for Congress to ban the practice instead of continuing to deal with a national disgrace.  Presently, the South is the only region with a homicide rate higher than the national average.  As a matter of fact, the region accounts for 80% of executions in the entire nation.  Take the fact that the average homicide rate for states with the death penalty is 6.6 compared to non-death penalty states where the average is 3.5.  The burden of proof now falls to supporters of capital punishment to explain why the violent crime rates are not lower than those states without it if capital punishment is such a feared deterrent (Potter 1-4).

Law enforcement officials, psychologists, and sociologists have noted that people “observe that the state is backwardly killing people in order to teach others not to kill” (Grant 30).  This societal observation manifests so that “homicide actually increases in the time period surrounding an execution” (Grant 30).  Social scientists call this phenomenon the brutalization effect (Grant 30).  According to Gary Potter, the brutalization catalyzes homicide in three ways, first, executions desensitize the public to the immorality of killing, increasing the probability that some people will be motivated to kill. Two, the state legitimizes the notion that vengeance for past misdeeds is acceptable, and third, executions also have an imitation effect, where people actually follow the example set by the state, after all, people feel if the government can kill its enemies, so can they (6).

While there is absolutism to the argument, a kind of “monkey see, monkey do” implication that all humans are automatons who will repeat behavior displayed by other humans, the point is the same.  No matter what, no one can argue away that the government is meant to be above the laws of nature and is duty-bound to provide order (Weier 4).  At its basest form, capital punishment does disenfranchise the individual from the government.  Any institution that can kill its members is probably not a very fun club.  The government has a responsibility to protect its citizens, all its citizens, no matter what.  Capital punishment is a supreme cause of brutalization of society, and runs contrary to the interest of the general public in terms of individual liberty.

There are alternatives to capital punishment, of course.  The most widely-touted is called Restorative Justice (Grant 31).  Under this system, rehabilitation of a criminal would be the sole condition for parole (Grant 31).  Now, the specific benchmarks of rehabilitation are a bit unclear, but Restorative Justice “seeks to eliminate the culture of violence in U.S. society and replace it with a culture of caring” (Grant 31).  The supporters of Restorative Justice seek to advance the belief that it should be the government to extend the first olive branch and stop the violence of capital punishment (Grant 31).  The next step, they believe, is a more peaceful society in line with Gary Potter’s mindless drone model because the government has backed down.

A more beneficial and practical solution, though, is what 29 states already have: Life in prison without parole (American Civil Liberties Union 3).  Given that there is little danger of a single prisoner living out the remainder of his or her life in a one-person cell inside a maximum-security prison cell, it seems to be the most promising solution to America’s death penalty problem.  Naturally, there are those who advance the idea that all killers will escape and rape, murder, and shoot their way through the streets like a rabid dog.  They have a legitimate fear, but the chances of such a thing happening are so incalculable that it seems insulting to general intelligence.  Life without parole means losing the key and retaining ownership of the criminal’s body even in death.  That is a rather permanent situation without running the risk of martyrdom inherent to capital punishment.  Age has a way of sobering the mind and disinteresting the public.  Kill a killer in their prime, create a hero in the heart of the depraved, scared, and isolated (Simon 2).  Life in prison without parole robs a murderer any glory in death (Simon 2).  What comes to pass in a prison cell comes to pass.

Congress must redress the Fifth Amendment in order to bring it into step with the expectations of the Founders, society, the international community, and for the first time in American history truly balance the scales of equality.  Only through a partial repeal and passing of legislative measures can the abolition of the death penalty be achieved.  Congress has a duty to preserve “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.”  I believe there is a reason they listed life as the first priority.  For, without life, the government loses tax revenue.  It is yet another reason criminals must be left to live in this country.  By removing the option of parole from life sentences, it becomes an acceptable alternative.  Congress has been given ample reason to take action though it lacks impetus due to protests from pro-capital punishment advocates, who have lost the historical, international, fiscal, practical, and moral argument but continue to be a potent force of violence.



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Connors, Paul. "Introduction to Capital Punishment." Introduction. Current Controversies: Capital Punishment. By Paul Connors. Detroit: Greenhaven P, 2007.

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Grant, Robert. "Capital Punishment Exacerbates Violence." The Humanist 64. (2004): 25-32.

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Kogan, Gerald. "Justice and the Role of the Death Penalty." The Tampa Tribune 26 Jan. 1998, Final ed., sec. B: 10.

McCloskey, James. "The Death Penalty: a Personal View." Criminal Justice Ethics 15.2 (1996): 70-75.

Potter, Gary W. "Capital Punishment is an Ineffective Crime Control Policy." Kentucky Legislature. Joint Interim Health and Welfare Committee. Kentucky Legislature, Frankfurt. (20 Mar. 1999): 1-8.

"Race of Death Row Inmates Since 1976." Death Penalty Information Center. 18 June 2008. Death Penalty Information Center. 18 June 2008 <http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?scid=5&did=184#inmaterace>.

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Smith, Clive S. "Studies Cannot "Prove" Capital Punishment Deters Crime." Current Controversies: Capital Punishment (2007): 1-4.

"Supreme Court Rulings - Constitutionality of the Death Penalty, Guidelines for Judges and Juries, Jury Selection, and Sentencing Procedures." Capital Punishment: Cruel and Unusual? (2006). The Gale Group. St Johns River Community College, St. Augustine. Keyword: Death Penalty.

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Example 1
A DOUBLE killer who was freed after serving 15 years of a life sentence was found guilty yesterday of murdering a teenage prostitute after his release.

Paul Brumfitt, 44, was jailed for life at Birmingham Crown Court after being convicted of killing Marcella Ann Davis at his home in Woodsetton, near Dudley, in February last year.

Brumfitt, who was jailed at the Old Bailey in 1980 for beating to death a shopkeeper in Tilbury, Essex, and strangling a bus driver in Denmark, was also convicted yesterday of raping a second prostitute at knifepoint. Brumfitt was also placed on the sex offenders' register.

Example 2
A POLICE force has been slammed for “systematic failure” after a man handed a life sentence for murdering his former live-in lover in Huddersfield went on to kill again before hanging himself.

Shaun Clarke, 45, served more than 20 years in prison for murdering Patricia Sykes at her Quarmby home in September, 1987, after she said their relationship was over.

But he went on to stab and kill a 30-year-old care worker, Donna Wilson, at her home in Burton-on-Trent, Staffordshire, after being released on a life licence under probation monitoring as a “low risk” of re-offending.

Example 3
Eric Fish was released to a half-way house in 2004 in Vernon, British Columbia. Fish had been serving a life sentence for a 1984 murder and had been deemed by the Parole Board to be a "high-risk to violently re-offend." Fish walked away from the half-way house and over a period of six weeks, murdered two people. Public outrage over this case resulted in the closing down of the half-way house to which Fish had been assigned

Example 4
Allan Craig MacDonald was paroled in 1989 after serving only 12 years for murdering a police officer and a taxi driver. Shortly after his release, MacDonald beat, raped, stabbed, and murdered Linda Shaw and set her body on fire. (Although MacDonald was not convicted for this crime (he committed suicide in 1994), his guilt was confirmed by a DNA test in 2004)

Example 5
John Lyman Kehoe was paroled in 1986. He had been sentenced to life in prison for murdering his two children in 1972. In 1996, Kehoe and another paroled multiple murder, attacked real estate agent Wendy Carroll. Carroll was choked and had her throat slit, although she did survive. Kehoe was subsequently deemed a Dangerous Offender and is unlikely to ever be released from prison again

Example 6
Kevin Humphrey was granted paroled despite being sentenced to life for murdering and robbing a man in 1983 before fleeing the country. Despite three previous parole violations, Humphrey was paroled again in 2006. In October of that year, Humphrey stabbed Richard Kent multiple times with a folding knife and then slit his throat in a crack house. Although Kent survived, he still has brain injury symptoms and memory problems.

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A report by the Canadian Police Association revealed that between 1998 and 2003, 66 people have been killed by convicts out on early release.

I realize that I went on a bit with the examples, but I simply wanted to show the gruesome results that not having the death penalty for muderers could create. I am and will always be for capital punishment.
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Gandhi said, "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind."

I think that is a right load.

Surely paedophiles and rapists should be castrated and then allowed to carry on, as this would stop their wrong desires?

Surely thieves should have their hands cut off?

If a gang member stabs someone, shouldn't he then be stabbed?

Rather then just killing them, which is traumatic, only kill the killers, and make their freinds and family watch (or, in a more twisted way, follow Rome and make them the executors)

In Britain our prisions are overcrowded. So? Put them in there anyway. Make it uncomfortable. Make them learn their lesson properly. Prisons over here are too nicer, mayer even nicer than criminal's housing. They get food, shelter, healthcare, and they can have TVs, pool tables, whatever. A prison was broken into by a drug dealer, and no prisoners escaped from the hole he made. Doesn't this say something about our legal system?
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Isn't revenge only when performed by the victim rather than the law?


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No. The state is a group of individuals who come together to determine a common morality. Change begins with a single individual, so the pervailing desire for revenge poisons the collective well.

Sister Helen Prejean says that the most likely candidate to end the cycle of violence is the state because killing for killing is only more killing.
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I support Texas, if you kill someone and more than three people saw what you did, you go straight to the head of the line  Cool

And to answer Aequitas's comment on my brothers post. No we shouldn't be killed, we are not only doing our job, we are following orders. We don't just invade and kill citizens, we kill those who would harm our allies and ourselves.

A hitman is not ordered to kill, they get paid to kill. We on the other hand have our own MOS (job) whether it be Military Police or Cook, but if need be we will pick up that rifle and go to war when the time calls for it.
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While I agree with some of the stuff that you guys have stated, I must also disagree with the other stuff. Why should murderers, rapists, pedophiles, etc., get food and shelter? Now let me also ask you this. If someone had killed your relative, what would you want to happen to them? I know that I would want justice and revenge.
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Darth Crozeus wrote:
Prisons over here are too nicer, mayer even nicer than criminal's housing. They get food, shelter, healthcare, and they can have TVs, pool tables, whatever. A prison was broken into by a drug dealer, and no prisoners escaped from the hole he made. Doesn't this say something about our legal system?


...really. Thats almost as nice as my house...and thats not good...I don't even have a bloody pool table.
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It's ridiculous. People moan about prison overcrowding, and I say so what? If so many people commit crimes punishable by prison, they should be put in there anyway. If they are all cramped it would be worse for them, so they wouldn't want to go back. They should get rid of all the luxury prisoners get and replace them with more cells, and put more in there anyway.
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Malice, your example is a stupid one, the remedy to the system should be to prevent early release from life sentences rather than death. And I agree with Crozeus, make prison conditions terrible, stuff four guys in a one man cell, put them in charge of making their own food and getting themselves cleaned. Make them do hard labour and when they're on break prevent them from forming cliques or having stuff smuggled in by having supervisers and patrollers to keep them seperate. Make their lives terrible and make sure they can't end them.
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Exactly. But what do you think of an eye for an eye?
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I think that eye for an eye is really a terrible idea. If a poor man steals a few thousand and gets caught, then taking all his money isn't going to reduce the likelihood of him stealing again. And what of attempted crimes? If someone attempts to murder someone, does that mean someone will attempt to murder them back? And if the law is working that way, the attempt will deliberately fail. However, for some crimes up the spectrum, a rapist put in prison will be raped. Not might be raped, will be raped. For murderers, they took someone's life away, doing the same to them is the easy way out. Force them to live until either the imprisonment, monotonous lifestyle, lack of social interaction or eventual guilt drives them insane, then deny them euthanasia. Forcing them to live is a much better punishment.
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Good point. What I would prefer is if a thief would have his hands cut off. A rapist would be castrated. If it was attempted murder, they should be tried to see if they are a threat to society. If they are, then they should be imprisoned. I wouldn't want eye for an eye for every crime, just the ones it is applicable to.



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