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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 10:12 am
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High Prophet Crozeus Sith Priest Joined: 24 Jul 2008 Posts: 4498 Location: I am yu, and he is mi. Sticking to the rules here, and not using religion as a viewpoint, what are people's views on sex before marriage? I, for one, think it is a senseless rule. If a couple love each other then they can celebrate their love. If it doesn't work out, well, that's life. _________________

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 10:27 am
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Mage Superior Odin Sith Priest Joined: 06 May 2008 Posts: 1907 Location: poke my bunny Sex is a part of human-nature as it is a part of every living thing that later announced as "corruption of mankind" by Church and Mosque (sorry for using religion). Marriage is just a legal procedure that has been put with the enhancement of human society. Its somewhat like nature against laws. By "taboo"izing the sex over centuries, it moved slowly down into society's subconsciousness with the pressure of laws. There was love before laws. _________________ Klopf klopf, lass mich rein Lass mich dein geheimnis sein

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 10:44 am
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Emperor Shadow Sith Emperor/Admin Joined: 03 Dec 2005 Posts: 21471 Location: Behind Door Number 2! What is the question for debate? This doesn't have a constructive point to counter/support. _________________ That, that is, is; that, that is not, is not. Today's Evil Overlord Mood/Thought Process of the Day: Gungan opera The Realist Party. You can't repel appeal of our magnitude.

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 11:49 am
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High Prophet Crozeus Sith Priest Joined: 24 Jul 2008 Posts: 4498 Location: I am yu, and he is mi. Do you think pre-marital sex should be allowed, or should couples wait until after marriage? _________________

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 3:40 pm
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Darth Cruiciatus Sith Master Joined: 25 Jan 2006 Posts: 1337 Location: With the sheep lovers- the Welsh Uh, keep it the same way. Law won't count for anything. The media today glorifies sex. _________________

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 3:46 pm
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High Prophet Crozeus Sith Priest Joined: 24 Jul 2008 Posts: 4498 Location: I am yu, and he is mi. I did a little survey of my class in the middle of RE (lol). It said: "If you could, would you want to get laid now?" All but 1 guy (a devout Catholic) said yes. _________________

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 3:55 pm
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Darth Cruiciatus Sith Master Joined: 25 Jan 2006 Posts: 1337 Location: With the sheep lovers- the Welsh media, media, media _________________

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:09 pm
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Mage Superior Odin Sith Priest Joined: 06 May 2008 Posts: 1907 Location: poke my bunny For media, sex is a tool to occupy prime time _________________ Klopf klopf, lass mich rein Lass mich dein geheimnis sein

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:45 pm
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Darth Cruiciatus Sith Master Joined: 25 Jan 2006 Posts: 1337 Location: With the sheep lovers- the Welsh Yet still media, media, media _________________

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 11:13 pm
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High Commander Vexen Sith Lord Second Degree Joined: 10 Mar 2006 Posts: 5107 Location: Building a Communist fighting robot I say its ok....and it feels good. _________________

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 7:24 am
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Supreme Commander Alor Dark Lord/Main Admin Joined: 28 Mar 2007 Posts: 4774 Location: Designing a new superweapon... I can see where both sides come from: Anti-Pre-Marital Sex: Sex, and therefore reproduction, is sacred and needs to be respected. Having a child is not like riding a bike or eating breakfast, it takes dedication and patience. Most religions deem marriage the acceptable point because the participants were usually mentally mature and capable of supporting themselves and [a] child[ren]. Pro-Pre-Marital Sex: In today's modernized world, it is possible to have sex with a largely decreased risk of pregnancy. While the risk is not all-together removed, sex has come to represent love and enjoyment, rather than reproduction and maturity. Personally, I support Pre-Marital Sex, but with discretion and caution. Becoming pregnant at a young age only forces the further argument of Pro-Life or Pro-Choice upon the young woman with or without the male counterpart, and their families. It forces them to grow up faster than intended, taking the "fun" out of their life. So while sex may present an enjoyable time, the results can completely dissolve any of that enjoyment. _________________ Once known as Darth Marix Emperor Shadow wrote: The Military has always been a good counter-weight to my agendas..

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 2:25 pm
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Darth Macht Sith Acolyte Joined: 28 Feb 2008 Posts: 239 Religous view: Mortal sin and indeed wrong. Legal view: there's nothing legally wrong with it. _________________ Patron: Darth Nihilus

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:00 pm
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High Prophet Crozeus Sith Priest Joined: 24 Jul 2008 Posts: 4498 Location: I am yu, and he is mi. And which do you follow? (Keep out of religion) _________________

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:18 pm
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Darth Macht Sith Acolyte Joined: 28 Feb 2008 Posts: 239 I follow religion. I believe everyone else should as well, but I believe they should have the choice to do either. _________________ Patron: Darth Nihilus

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:22 pm
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High Prophet Crozeus Sith Priest Joined: 24 Jul 2008 Posts: 4498 Location: I am yu, and he is mi. I mean that religion is not to be debated in the debates thread: Some topics are barred from debate on TheDarkSithLords. Religion- any religion- is expressly forbidden from debate. The Bible, Koran, or Tao Te Ching are not viable sources for a debate. Arguing the pros and cons of belief, faith, or Creationism, etc. are not permitted. If you wish to debate religion, contact another user of the forum and do so in private. _________________

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:27 pm
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Darth Macht Sith Acolyte Joined: 28 Feb 2008 Posts: 239 Well, I wasn't implying at all faith would be a source of information in law. If I gave you that impression I apologize. I was talking about how in personal matters faith dictates decisions. Is this a debate on the morality of sex before marriage or the legality? _________________ Patron: Darth Nihilus

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:41 pm
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High Prophet Crozeus Sith Priest Joined: 24 Jul 2008 Posts: 4498 Location: I am yu, and he is mi. Either. As for me, morally there's nothing wrong as it is up to the people involved. Legally the age of consent should be abolished, or at least re-thought, as I don't see why two under 16s (or however old it is elsewhere) who love each other and want to celebrate that should have to wait for legal reasons. _________________

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 4:05 pm
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Darth Macht Sith Acolyte Joined: 28 Feb 2008 Posts: 239 Then you'd have to lower the legal marriage age as well. _________________ Patron: Darth Nihilus

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 10:54 am
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High Mage Serratus Sith Marauder Joined: 25 Sep 2008 Posts: 1578 Location: Eating a bagel (LIKE A BOSS) In Ireland you can get married at 16 with parental consent. But the age of sexual consent is 17. Wtf. _________________ If you see dreadlocks and a staff coming towards you very rapidly, you're in trouble.

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 1:27 pm
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High Prophet Crozeus Sith Priest Joined: 24 Jul 2008 Posts: 4498 Location: I am yu, and he is mi. That's... a little strange. _________________

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 3:10 pm
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Yodafueva Jedi Joined: 22 Jan 2006 Posts: 241 Location: Superunknown I'd say my views echo that of Marix's. I'm against it myself, partly because of religious reasons but also the reasons that Marix stated. Sex is enjoyable, but if your partner becomes pregnant it's a bad thing. Now, I'm also against it because typically, abortions happen the most with pre-marital sexually active couples. Abortion is very wrong, and I'm against it. So my dislike of pre-marital sex correlates with my view on abortion. Still, their isn't a reason as to why it shouldn't be allowed. _________________

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 3:17 pm
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High Prophet Crozeus Sith Priest Joined: 24 Jul 2008 Posts: 4498 Location: I am yu, and he is mi. Ok, so moving this debate along a bit, what are your views on contraception? Which methods do you deem acceptable? In some traditions, only the rythym method (not during ovulation) is permitted. _________________

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 3:20 pm
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Yodafueva Jedi Joined: 22 Jan 2006 Posts: 241 Location: Superunknown Prophet Crozeus wrote: Ok, so moving this debate along a bit, what are your views on contraception? Which methods do you deem acceptable? In some traditions, only the rythym method (not during ovulation) is permitted. It's a necessity. The sooner it's perfected, the better. It solves one basic problem: Abortion. If contraception is perfected, virtually no abortions will happen. The only time a women would get pregnant is if she was drunk or/and raped. The cut-down of babies when couples don't want them shall be monumental. Methods? Whatever works. The less risk for the women, the better. That also correlates with health in and of itself, because some birth control increases the chances of cancer for a women significantly. _________________

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 3:31 pm
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High Prophet Crozeus Sith Priest Joined: 24 Jul 2008 Posts: 4498 Location: I am yu, and he is mi. Not cancer, STDs. Cancer is different. I agree with you, although for abortion I am pro-choice (there is a thread). If contraception were perfected there would be little spread of STDs and no unwanted children resulting in neglect, if they don't abort. _________________

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 3:34 pm
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Lord Aequitas Sith Lord Second Degree Joined: 09 Feb 2008 Posts: 5702 Location: Prancing through the fields like a prancing...prancer. Actually, if women miss their smear tests, they could develop Cancer. _________________ Emperor Shadow wrote: Taking creepiness to a new level since 80something ABY.

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