I understand that I'm asking much, for someone in my position, being a low-ranking, young member of this Empire, but given the circumstances; being that, from what I can understand, this specific 'group' is inactive, from what I read, but the topic and threads are still here and intact. I'd like to propose this idea, something I know might seem foolish at first:
I'd like to ask for control over, or at least a part of ownership, within this organization. Just temporarily, enough time to build it up to be better, accomplish a few things, and prove myself worthy of being in this Empire in the first place. I think great things can come from something like that, along with a steady flow of foreign populations. And, if given this chance, if I fail to meet my specifications, and fail to prove my worth, then I'd willingly be removed from said position of power.
Just a thought, think it over, please.
Emperor Shadow
What do you know about this site, this Empire, that could put you in such a position of trust?
Djinn
In my short time here, I sort of figured out how things work. I know what we do and why we do things that way; the way we train, the way we pair people, the way things get done, and I have a basic understanding of the system with which we run the site, like the line of power, I'd assume you can call it.
But as to being trusted, all I can give you is my word.
Emperor Shadow
Explain, from the top down, who is in charge. Biographies, teaching styles, leadership mannerisms, former masters, former apprentices, their leadership philosophies.
Major General Celestial
Emperor, if it be your will I am willing to let him help rebuild.
Emperor Shadow
He is an unknown. I require proof but I am not opposed.
Djinn
I'll begin writing now, I suppose. I'll be done with it sometime soon, definitely by tonight.
Djinn
The information that follows was found based off of research, and as such, the only weaknesses in it's information came from a lack of correctly stored information by the keepers and historians of this Empire. Most people are listed as inactive, and as such, I didn't include them, nor did I include anything less than an Order Head, because they're the ones with power, in my eyes, and anyone less than such rank, has no real authority to speak of. From my research there's no real 'line of power', just high ranking members with almost equal capabilities, save for the Emperor, that calls the shots.
Be warned, you shouldn't have high expectations for this, I DID NOT include anyone whom I thought didn't have influential power on this site, nor in this empire.
Emperor Shadow
From what I understand, Emperor Shadow is a sort of pacifist, not fighting unless totally necessary. His teaching style is more of a hands-on, mental test, more than the regular brutish corriculum. He prefers the mental game over physical superiority. He teaches things such as patience, and increasing your mental capacity, instead of the basic military training one would receive in the Sith.
Former Master(s): Darth Scyrone (I failed to find any other instructor, since you didn't really get training in the beginning.)
Apprentice(S): Supremo (now Grand Mage Aequitas), Mire Raito, Reaverath El'Erandur, Gracy, Sano Linguist, Aerris, Azirell, Enari, Jediducki(now Lady Ducki)
Lord Praxeum (Also Supreme Prophet, head of the Prophets, and Sith Lord)
Refined and sophisticated, Praxeum is a good Sith. His training method is strictly by the book, sticking to the important things in a Sith life. He has good manners, and respects those who respect him.
Former Master(s): Darth Minious/Acheron
Apprentice(s): Roan Star, Dradin, Barrow Oicunn, Avic
Lord Prognie (Also Grand Inquisitor, head of Inquisitors, and Sith Lord)
Unorthodox in training. Likes to stick with objectives and training that gears towards the life of an Inquisitor.
Former Master(s): Inquisitor Thrax
Apprentice(s): Elric De Odin, Gabriel Bane, Jak
Supreme Commander Marix (Also Sith Lord)
Brash and crude. Marix is a hands-on sort of person that likes to drill the teachings into the learner's head.
Former Master(s): Brigadier General Matas
Apprentice(s): Kyle Vel'Zorn, Zardent, Markus Wolf, Cimil, Eclipse, Navey, Ragatoe Aront, Kronas, Torran Kryll
Lord Tarna (Also Shadow Protector, head of Royal Guard, and Sith Lord)
His teaching style is rugged. Not like any others, because when it comes down to it, it's his way or the highway. He thinks he's better than most, a noble air, I guess you could say.
Former Master(s): Darth Ezan
Apprentice(s): Vlar Nedich, Chiako, Relentless, Doman Seraph Cruix, Jerina, Desan
Grand Mage Aequitas (Also High Historian, and Sith Lord)
He never fights unless it's completely necessary, something I'd assume rubbed off from the Emperor. He likes to teach the basics, but does it in a way that's better than most. He doesn't pressure you so you're uncomfortable, he lets you figure things out on your own, at somewhat of a hastened pace, so that everything gets covered.
Former Master(s): Emperor Shadow
Apprentice(s): Lucifer, Darth Serratus, Darth Cruciatius
Lord Acrimonus (Also Keeper of Altars, and Sith Lord)
Level-headed and just in his actions. Acrimonus likes to give the student a semi-easy, but effective experience. Helping them learn instead of letting them do it themselves.
Former Master(s): Chief Inquisitor Seti
Apprentice(s): Phobos, Drakengard
Emperor Shadow
This is bottom-scraping at best. You have displayed an elementary knowledge of our government at best and yet you have an air that is all too familiar which leads me to suspect your errors are by design. Your reasons are your own but never let secrecy stand in the way of quality. I have rancors on standby for such offendors.
Unless you wholly pulled names out of the air, which you did not to know some of them, you would have known I was trained by Empress Saber, my immediate predecessor.
And what else do you know about Supreme Prophet Praxeum's leadership sytle for you to suspect it is by-the-book? I've never heard that judgment thrown at him before. His methods are unorthodox at best.
Sell me on the idea.
Djinn
With all due respect, this entire thing has no relation to leading, or even just re-inventing the Diplomatic Corps. But I'll humor you:
From what I read, you applied to learn and were accepted by Scyrone because you never had real training to speak of, a direct quote, I might add, so that in-turn would hint that you never had a previous master, and going off of that, I figured Scyrone was your only one. That's called using the information I have on-hand to make an educated guess, like you said, I'm new.
Praxeum does what everyone wants of him. Although yes, he is his own person, his actions, and efforts are determined by what the people want, not what he wants. He trains apprentices based around what they want to learn, not what they NEED to learn. At least, I've noticed the method with two of his apprentices, so I made it a habit.
Nevertheless, ALL THIS has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that these threads, and this organization, is dying, and inactive, and I'm the only person to have the desire to fix it, and simply because I'm new, and unfamiliar, I get the shaft. At one point, you were new too, my Emperor. Everyone was at one point or another, I promise I'm going to be here for quite some time, why would I come here, and do all I've done with malcontent?
Emperor Shadow
So what's your plan?
Djinn
My plan is to first, if at all possible, recruit people to the cause, to help me, as best they can, to get this thing off the ground:
Proper rules.
Proper rankings.
Guidelines, private notes for our records, messages being sent to other forums and empires.
Line of power.
Implement the I.D.C. into a RP-based atmosphere.
If all goes well, I was hoping to take the I.D.C., possibly change the name, and add it as a 'sub-mission' of the Sith Mages once I've joined. Since the two purposes and jobs seem to go together.
As of now, that's all I intend, to gather more people, and strengthen the I.D.C. If the plans change, trust me, you'd be the first person to know. But all this, I assure you, will be at a slower rate, since my training, missions with the Sith Mages, and duties to my master outweigh the I.D.C. in importance as of now. It's almost a side-job, I'd assume you could call it.
High Prophet Crozeus
I wouldn't say they have any connection to the Mages. The IDC would be more of an OOC position for advertising the site on other places.
Lord Aequitas
I'm agreeing with Crozeus.
Djinn
See things from my standpoint, from someone new who doesn't make big deals out of everything. They both deal in going to foreign planets and the I.D.C. simply invites people to come back here with us. I'm sure it can be given a RP twist to liven it up.
Grand Inquisitor Prognie
The Mages is an IC group similar to the military and Inquisitors and Church. None of us really sit here and take our jobs out of character, that is the purpose of separating the Mages and the Diplomatic Corps. The name is simply a name but the purpose is an out of character hope.
Djinn
And a mindset like that is exactly why you're not the one trying to do something with the I.D.C.
Look, I've given my reasoning for the desire to bring this back to life, I've done your bidding, no matter the incredibly slim relation between what I want and what you had me do. I've explained myself, proven I'm still here and want to help the site and Empire, so I'm begging for my shot at this. I don't care who helps me or if I have a time limit, just please give me a chance.
High Prophet Crozeus
I'm all for this being brought back to life, but you must understand that this is a strictly OOC unit, that can be roleplayed, but not as a part of the Mages. The IDC is to recruit members from other sites, the Mages catalogue and explore planets in our Empire.
Lord Aequitas
And paranormal activites, and unexplored regions..gosh...
High Prophet Crozeus
Sorry. I was in a rush.
Djinn
Well then just leave the I.D.C.'s business up to me, I suppose. Pretend I never said I wanted to implement it into the Sith Mages, because obviously nobody's seeing it as I'm seeing it.
Lord Aequitas
I'm sorry, did I miss something here?
YOU want to implement it into the Sith Mages?
I'm sorry but only two people can make that call. Me and the Emperor.
High Prophet Crozeus
I believe you are seeing it as a branch of the Mages, who set up embassies on worlds that are catalogued to entice more Force Sensitives in.
Djinn
First off.. please don't get hung up on the wrong things here. It'd be childesh and pointless to fight about stupid things. I'll be honest, I'm getting irritated that this is taking so long to figure out, and nobody is understanding something so simple.
I didn't mean it that way, Grand Mage Aequitas. Don't take it as me thinking I'm powerful, it's common sense that I'd seek approval for such a thing. And as to me thinking it's a branch of the Sith Mages, no, I see the I.D.C. as a 'side mission', I guess you could say, for select members only, whom would want to act as 'Ambassador Scouts'. It's an idea, people, just.. don't jump the gun with any of this, please.
I'm not promising anything, I just want to get it revived, and off the ground first. THEN we can worry about that minuscule curriculum.
Lord Aequitas
I do understand.
But how we can trust you when you're throwing out these wild ideas, is beyond me.
Djinn
What wild ideas?
Making active an organization that randomly clutters the forum pages, sitting, inactively as everyone around it rushes past with their own schedules? My aim is to get the I.D.C. going. What's wild about that? That's all I want, that's all I'm going for, people need to stop assuming things, and thinking about things, and making ridiculous accusations because trust me, my intentions are pure.
If it's the fact that I'm new and unknown, then by all means, assign someone to watch me, it'll be in vain, and an irritation to said person, guaranteed. I just want to do this, no particular reason, other than nobody else took the time to do it, and I have nothing but time.
Sadow
Your ambition lacks patience, my brother.
High Prophet Crozeus
Ambition is good for a Sith, but we have to know that you can handle it.
Cause you're "unknown".
Djinn
Well the only way we'll know for sure is if you let me try, won't we? I know I haven't done much here, but I think the few days I've been here, training, following the rules, etc., has at least earned me the right to TRY and do this, to TRY and prove myself worthy of your trust. But then again, I have been wrong before. Everyone was unknown at one point or another, I think it's about my time to get some sort of trust, at least so I can try this.
Grand Inquisitor Prognie
Djinn, we get it, you're new and unknown but you don't have to constantly remind us of the fact.
Point being, you were asked to do something to prove your worth and what you provided was not enough. You were then asked to state your plan and your plan was basically the similar idea the IDC had when it began. you're simply presenting to everyone what we already know and you're not awing anybody enough to make us want to give this to you. Also insulting members by saying they don't understand your simplicity isn't helping matters either.
To be honest I'd like to see this just further handled by Shadow now as this is only continuing to get worse and nothing good has come from it. I'm not the law so you obviously take what i say how you want to but the decisions are up to Shadow so let him handle this now.
Major General Celestial
Maybe you should read what the IDC is about. We are an emissary group who tries to go to other planets (Sites) to recruit new members. It had quit becuase we were transmitting to the new site, but after a long while at best, I am geussing we still wont move for a long time.
What I am trying to say is, if you wish to join, go right ahead, and we will get started back up. Yet, you have to realise, the mages go to planets and investigate, we recruit and keep archives.
Djinn
And.. how is that not similar? is all I'm asking.
If I'm missing something, I'm sorry. If I seem to be coming off as blunt, or short, I'm sorry, I don't mean for it. Master Prognie, I'm not the one bringing up how I'm new or unknown frequently, everyone else is, and I'm rolling with it.
I'm asking for a shot. Even if it's only becoming a member and getting to work, I was unaware of any other members to speak of.
Major General Celestial
On the new site, I am in charge. If you wish to join and at least make a sort of short biography relating to your new idea go ahead. It would perhaps go good in the archives. Perhaps of an estimated hypothesis of every persons most familiar actions and their duels, and perhaps missions. It could also supposed by your idea, find how most teachers train, for most apprentices to see for their own personal choice.
Djinn
Well I'm not particularly looking for membership of this organization on a different site, I understand if it's to be this site, just at a different location, but we're here, not there, and I wish to join up here.
Lord Aequitas
Cody is still head of it.
Major General Celestial
Yes, I just have not been able to make stickys or anything without moderator status.
Djinn
Then why's Isaah a moderator for it, and who is he, for that matter? I've never seen him on here. I'm not going to argue who's in control. Obviously I'm getting nowhere with this.
Lock the thread, please.
Emperor Shadow
I'll give you thirty days' control.
Djinn
My Lord,
Thank you. Thank you so very much. I promise I won't prove you wrong.
