Physical characteristics: Fiery red hair falling past her shoulder blades with misty blue eyes that devour secrets. Cutting a lean framed figure, Arden credits her muscle definition to rigorous training in unarmed combat forms. With high cheekbones and classic good features, her alabaster skin offsets the fact that she enjoys nature.
Wardrobe: Arden wears laced sandals, with ribbon running up her slender legs to her knees that lead to the bottom of a dress not designed for stealth. A one-piece cut of any color with a fashionable belt and a hood more for show than practicality also adorn her chosen style.
Abilities: Multitasking and organizing make her a valuable operative for any purpose. She is a student of ancient technique and has prowess in Stealth and Battle Meditation by way of the Force. Through personal discipline, she has mastered Echani. Piloting, torture and infiltration are also efficient points of note for Darth Arden.
Lightsaber information: One lightwhip, pink hued.
Biography:
Dark and forgotten, Eriaté Yuan inherited a legacy. Her destiny was realized first by an elderly Mandalorian woman she was sent to in order to study medicine. She herself a Grey Jedi of personal training, the woman sent Arden away in a patrol ship when she was seven to reach her potential. However, at eight, when the patrol ship was ambushed by smugglers, she joined them and was apprenticed to one of the galaxy’s most nefarious criminals. She spent ten years in his care, learning how to pilot, torture and perform shadowy operations. As she grew older, she began to understand the old woman’s rantings, that she must go beyond this small existence in order to reach a more noble being.
When she inherited the smuggling empire from her mentor who died under mysterious circumstances, she acquired new appreciation for economics, history and politics that would last her entire life. At nineteen, she was the youngest head of a criminal cartel in the galaxy. As such, she gained fame and revulsion from all corners of the underworld. During a transaction on Admuar, word reached the Imperial Baron of the system of her Force potential from a Mandalorian arms merchant named Ord’ika Nwep, the son of her original teacher on Mandalore.
The Baron’s trap nearly cost Arden her life, and would have had her second-in-command not stabilized wounds she was content to let bleed. Crippled by her attackers, her ship could not make the jump to lightspeed and was boarded by armed Imperial soldiers. Taken into custody, Arden next remembers waking in a finely furnished chamber, a man in a taut black uniform staring at her through a thin sheet of glass. When he spoke, it was like destiny itself availed itself on her. Her kept her in his residence for a time, teaching her Battle Meditation and helping her research the Sith of old.
When Imperial Command was informed of her potential, the Baron was executed for his secrecy and failure to pass her along to a ‘fit’ Master. She would not learn this until six years later when she had earned her own Mastery. When Arden was transported to Kuat for evaluation, a special council determined her potential and readily-testable abilities warranted training from the Empire’s best. Short of the Empress herself, the Darkest Knight of the era was eager to forge the young girl who had lived a full life before arriving for training at one of the Sith’s academies.
And the rest is to be included with time.
Dixon-Craat
Mandalorian really isn't a species, it's more of a culture unless you mean she is of the Taung species.
Emperor Shadow
As I was the one who helped craft vitals, she doesn't.
Mandalorian may be better classified as a culture, but there isn't a real reason why Humans who were born Mando can't be classified, because of the physical distinctions from say, Coruscanti.
Darth Acheron
Dixon is right, actually. All humans, whether from Corellia, Mandalore, Coruscant, or Mon Calamari, are humans, not Corellian, Mandalorian, Coruscanti, or Mon Calamarian. Yes, they can be considered Corellian, Mandalorian, Coruscanti or Mon Calamarian, but their species is still human.
There are no physical distinctions from a Coruscanti and a Mandalorian. Both are human. Besides usually having more muscle, and perhaps being slightly taller as a result, they are identical, and a Coruscanti could easily acheive this as well.
Emperor Shadow
One chromosome denotes an entirely different species. Being born on a different planet with different gravity, soil conditions, etc. changes the basic human genome, thereby making a different species in the strictest sense.
Darth Duff
Well the original mandolorians were "Taung" and were refered to as mandolorian after they were driven off Coruscant, so using the word mandolorian in place of Taung would be correct.
Dixon-Craat
Yes it would be correct, except she is of the culture not the species. It could be like this, Human (Mandalorian) but the species is not Mandalorian. Just like Korunai isn't a species, they are a force sensitive tribe of humans, Echani is the same, it is a culture but not a species.
Darth Acheron
Emperor Shadow wrote:
One chromosome denotes an entirely different species. Being born on a different planet with different gravity, soil conditions, etc. changes the basic human genome, thereby making a different species in the strictest sense.
And yet they are identical physically and chemically.
Its really not that big an issue. I don't see what's so important about arguing that she should have her species as Mandalorian...
Emperor Shadow
Chromosomes are chemicals.
Lady Arden
I will concede that my degree in chemistry may not be enough to assure people that it is indeed a seperate species from the same genus, but I would love to point out that a couple of chromosomes are all that seperate us from gorillas.
Darth Acheron
Emperor Shadow wrote:
Chromosomes are chemicals.
Which was my point... There is no chemical difference, thus no extra or lesser chromosome in Mandalorians as opposed to Coreelians/Coruscanti/Nabooians/Alderaanians/etc.
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I will concede that my degree in chemistry may not be enough to assure people that it is indeed a seperate species from the same genus, but I would love to point out that a couple of chromosomes are all that seperate us from gorillas.
I was not aware you had taken a Star Wars Chemistry degree. Forgive me.
The main point is: why does it matter? What is the driving force behind having Arden's species as Mandalorian as opposed to human? Will it make her RP any differently?
I'll answer my own question for the flip side: having her mistakenly labelled as a Mandalorian as her species could potentially cause confusion between her and other people using Mandalorians who would have listed their species as human, as all Wookieepedia articles list it, and would then add confusion for the select few (hypothetical, of course) who want to make a distinction between Taungs and Mandalorians, when they are meant to be the same, and yet Arden is identical to a human, when real Mandalorians/Taungs, who have died out, have grey skin.
Lady Arden
Darth Acheron wrote:
Emperor Shadow wrote:
Chromosomes are chemicals.
I was not aware you had taken a Star Wars Chemistry degree. Forgive me.
The great thing about the real world and Star Wars: they have the same death blows.
Because there is a distinction in the originial Guide to Alien Species.
Yes, you seem to answer your own questions quite a bit.
Darth Acheron
Lady Arden wrote:
Darth Acheron wrote:
Emperor Shadow wrote:
Chromosomes are chemicals.
I was not aware you had taken a Star Wars Chemistry degree. Forgive me.
The great thing about the real world and Star Wars: they have the same death blows.
Because there is a distinction in the originial Guide to Alien Species.
Yes, you seem to answer your own questions quite a bit.
In Star Wars, each human planet can be seen as a country on Earth. Asians are Asians, but also humans. They can be referred to as Asians, but their species is human.
And yet in the Databank and Wookieepedia, they are listed as humans.
I answered the flip side, if you were to throw it back at me. I also notice you didn't answer my question at all.
Lord Angmar
This is why i hate biology and chemistry. i prefer physics, straight up math.
Darth Acheron
Urgh, I hate physics. For some reason even though I'm good at Maths, I just can't get physics.
Biology is much better, although I probably won't be doing it next year. The only topic I really get in Biology is Genetics anyway.
Lord Angmar
In my opinion Bio and Chem have to much stuff that needs to be memorized. And Physic does have equations, but all it mainly is math. My favorite subject is history and government. And BTW. i think this kinda conversation needs to be in another thread. LOL
Darth Acheron
*poke* You started it.
Darth Acrimonus
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Because there is a distinction in the originial Guide to Alien Species.
Might I draw your attention to a comment relating to Hapans -
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They differed slightly from baseline Humans
. Granted, that was from Wookieepedia. However, it does point out that with enough time what was once just a colony of humans (all which originated on Coruscant, I believe) can have diverged enough to be considered a seperate species. The Mandalorians have been around long enough to be subject to the same consideration.
On a different note entirely, I couldn't help but notice your characters name was Eriaté. May I ask (with a little bit of ego showing through ) where the inspiration came from? Or is it all just conincidence?
Emperor Shadow
Yes, Humans are believed to have been born on Coruscant and branced out.
And yes, it has been my understanding that, as my sister put in her science lingo, that the species are slightly but different from one another; not as severe as the Chiss by any means, but still different.
Brigadier General Matas
The reason I started this is because the Mandalorians are a culture not a species.There should be any talk really about chromosomes or their physology or xhemical output because Mandalorians are not all humans. There have been Twi'lek Mandalorians and Kiffar Mandalorians so species has nothing to do with being Mandalorians since it's a culture. And if it was a species, then if you weren't born Mandalorian then you couldn't be Mandalorian which is false and example being Mira and the Kiffar Mandalorian, they became Mandalorians. So unless it's Taung it can't be a species, or subspecies or anything to do with species. It's more of a nationality/culture.
Lady Arden
If I had listed it as 'Culture: Mandalorian,' I would understand. But I didn't.
Darth Acrimonus, as my brother's beta reader, I fell in love with your character. So I borrowed her name.
Darth Acheron
Lady Arden wrote:
If I had listed it as 'Culture: Mandalorian,' I would understand. But I didn't.
Which is his point... as you have now discreetly changed it to, it is more correct to say Mandalorian Human than Mandalorian, as it is a culture, not a species.
Emperor Shadow
No, I changed it for her. She's still very right that it's sepreate; as is Acrimonus.
Darth Acheron
So you're saying she and Acrimonus are right, and that the Official Site Database, and Wookieepedia are wrong?
So I borrowed her name.