Best Duelist

Grand Inquisitor Prognie · Best Duelist

Age old question: who are the top duelists in character?'

Basically just rank, I will list mine.

1) Shadow
2) Magisto
3) Praxeum
4) Prognie/Tarna
5) Marix
6) Aequitas
7) Serratus

those are the ones i cared to list.

Now to give you an idea of why Magisto is second: he's the darkest knight, the enforcer of the Emperor's will.

Also to give you an idea of why Prognie is on par with Tarna. Prognie is not going to be the greatest lightsaber duelist but he's familiar with the forms where Tarna is a master. But Prognie is a very skilled force user and if we're ranking force users I would say it's Shadow then Prognie/Praxeum. You're going to see that Prognie is going to use the force heavily in any duel until lightsaber defenses aren't going to cut it. You're welcome to list your own opinions and even challenge Prognie to a duel.

High Prophet Crozeus

Can I point out that Crozeus has beaten Serratus twice?

I would place Crozeus seventh and Serratus eighth.

They are probably equal in terms of the lightsaber, maybe Crozeus has a teensy edge. He would destroy Crozeus in hand to hand, and he is skilled with all manner of weapons whereas Crozeus is all lightsabers (he can wield a total of five at the same time, one of which is double bladed), but Crozeus has an incredible ability with the Force as well as his mastery of Sith Sorcery. Plus he knows a Form only Praxeum knows Very Happy

Grand Inquisitor Prognie

Interesting, perhaps you should indulge Prognie with this new technique.

Lord Aequitas

You have me listed alot higher than I had me listed.

I had me at number 8.

Grand Inquisitor Prognie

what's your list? Very Happy

Lord Aequitas

Neither Ven nor I have the original list, but it was something like this:

Shadow
Praxeum
Prognie
Tarna
Marix
Magisto
Vexen
Adenn
Aequitas
Gra'tua

Darth Thrax

I, in my opinion, do not believe that Adenn nor Gra'tua is a better duelist than I. Then again, that is your list, not mine.

1) Shadow
2) Praxeum
3) Prognie
4) Marix
5) Tarna
6) Vexen
7) Thrax
8 ) Malice
9) Magisto [Only because I haven't read anything about his skills.]
10) Aequitas

Lord Aequitas

I very much doubt you could beat a Sith Lord who was trained by the Emperor in the art of the lightsaber.

Furthermore, you couldn't defeat Magisto, Dark Lord of the Sith and the Empire's Chief Warrior/Hand.

Grand Inquisitor Prognie

Adenn i had forgotten about but I am also sort of using force skill in this because the reason that Shadow is barely unmatched in his skill is his power in the force and his lightsaber skills.

I didn't count vexen because well, i was looking at active RPing characters. Razz

Darth Thrax

Lord Aequitas

There is no other Sith Lord trained by the Emperor on the list.

Just because I don't use my saber does not mean I am not able.

Grand Inquisitor Prognie

I'd throw acrimonous somewhere in there but I don't know where he'd fairly fall. I am not familiar with his strongest area, but he was one of Shadow's greatest allies so I'd see him being a formidable opponent.

Lord Aequitas

Yeah, he'd be a formidable dualist alright.

Darth Thrax

If that's the case, then why did you place Adenn higher than yourself?

Lord Aequitas

He outranks me and is the deputy head of a saber-concentrated Order. He is the Emperor's deputy head guard, after Tarna.

It's logical.

Darth Thrax

Just because I am only a Cadet in the Army does not mean that I am not skilled in both the Force and with the lightsaber. Ranks don't mean everything.

And the two, maybe three times I dueled Marix, I definitely put up a good fight. Although I do believe that he won all the times simply because he had mastered more forms than I had and because he is a battlemaster.

Lord Aequitas

Darth Thrax

I love how you ignored my other statements.

And although I do agree with you, was it not Darth Bane that was stronger in every aspect of the lightsaber and the Force than every other Sith Lord on Korriban at the time?

Lord Aequitas

I didn't ignore them. I just deemed them dismissable.

Darth Thrax

Dismissable because I was right and you couldn't bring up anything to match it?

Lord Aequitas

No, dissmissable because I didn't see how your being a Cadet in the Army mattered.

Adenn is a Lord II, I am a Lord I. That PLUS the fact he holds the position he does, which is a Hand because that is what the Royal Guards are too, is why I placed him before me on the list.

And in regards to your dualling someone, you've dualled against that one person and you lost to that one person. As such, that one person is ranked ahead of you.

You've not dualled everyone, as not everyone has wanted to dual. As such, the list was put together based on other IC information.

Also, I'd like to add, the list Ven and I created was done on active members at the time. If you were here, you may have been included.

Darth Thrax

Lord Aequitas

I'm saying your in-order rank didn't matter. Your site rank does.

And stating a fact about activity is hardly a low blow. A typo happened once with a slip of the finger, an easy thing to happen to anybody.

Seeing as there is a Council on the site dealing with activity and inactivity, I hardly call that a low blow.

Darth Thrax

Then Adenn's order rank would not matter at all based on what you just said.

And what does it matter if I was inactive? The point is that I always came back and contributed to the site. Also, like I said before, I was not meaning to disrespect him in any way. I was just telling him that he made a mistake in typing. I would want others to tell me as well so I wouldn't make that mistake twice. And if he took that as an insult, like I said before, I'm sorry, but it's just a tad bit sad.

Lord Aequitas

Since I outrank him Order-wise anyway, I could not have been referring to that in the first instance, which is what you originally had a problem with.

And you were not just telling him he had made a typo, deliberately bolding it, in an attempt to mock his previous post, is belittlement in my eyes.

Darth Thrax

So you're saying that because Adenn is ONE rank above you, that makes him better than you?

Lord Aequitas

I will answer that by directing a question at you.

You said yourself that Marix was better than you. By how many ranks does he outrank you?

Darth Thrax

He outranks me by one rank, but he is a battlemaster. That gives him the capability of learning every lightsaber form and being extremely skilled in all forms.

Lord Aequitas

And how do you know what Adenn is?

Darth Thrax

Actually, I do not know what he is. You never told me and I don't really feel like looking it up.

Lord Aequitas

There was always a reason Adenn was put ahead of me. I am not a Sith Battlemaster, I am a Sith Historian/Advisor.

Darth Thrax

And yet you can beat me in lightsaber combat? And don't say that because you were taught lightsaber combat by the Emperor that you would be able to beat me because if that was the case, you would be in the top five duelists.

Lord Aequitas

Shadow and Praxeum would always have 1 and 2 spot. Prognie and Tarna are equal, we'll say. Magisto, as the Darkest Knight would be powerful. Then there's the head of the Armed Forces and battlemaster no 6.

Where's the room?

Darth Thrax

You misunderstood me. You basically told me that because you were taught by the Emperor himself that you are able to beat me in lightsaber combat. I am not denying that you can, however. I am merely saying that if that was the case, you would be in the top five, dropping others down the ranks.

Lord Aequitas

This would be true, however, I though that the Order Heads of the more Saber-based Orders would be better than me.

Darth Thrax

That is something that we can both agree on.

Lord Aequitas

Then I guess the matter is closed.

Looking back, it was all very worthless because the lists are not official, just speculation.

Laughing

Supreme Commander Alor

High Commander Vexen

High Prophet Crozeus

Venedictos Appo

Like I said, my list has been destroyed and I can't remember it perfectly but they weren't the best duelist in general, there was one for lightsabers (i.e. who would be superior in lightsaber-only duels) and one for Force (i.e. who would be superior in Force-only duels).

As I remember, Crozeus was a few higher than Serratus in Force but Serratus was two-up on Crozeus in lightsaber combat.

I definitely remember that the top five lightsaberists were Shadow, Praxeum, Prognie, Tarna and Magisto and I have a vague recollection that the top five Force-users were Shadow, Praxeum, Prognie, Aequitas and Tarna but I could be wrong about both whether Aequitas or Prognie was higher and also whether Tarna was in it. I can't really remember that well.

Also I remember, Marix was above Vexen and Vexen was above Aequitas for lightsaber. And I'm almost certain that Lady Ducki was 9th on both.

But that's more or less as much as I can remember. I also only did Darths, so I didn't make the list, although I've never used a lightsaber IC, so I wouldn't have made that one anyway.

Grand Inquisitor Prognie

Lord Aequitas

I was 4th, Ven.

High Prophet Crozeus

Major General Celestial

Now, hold on a second, I just need to know where you would rank Celestial on your boards?

Lord Aequitas

Right after Crozeus and Serratus.

Venedictos Appo

Wait, I though Odin was higher than Celestial? Or am I thinking of the Force list?

High Prophet Crozeus

That would be Force list. Odin doesn't like lightsabers, Celestial loves 'em Razz

Major General Celestial

'Tis true, that would explain why I joined the military.

Darth Thrax

Same for me. Thats why I've mastered 5 lightsaber forms. Smile

Major General Celestial

I have only mastered two, but one of them is the new high rank, so it is really strong.

Darth Thrax

The 5 that I have mastered are ones that I've only used in my duels and RP's. You can notice that the other ones are rather low compared to my top 5.

Lord Aequitas

Major General Celestial

Ah, the power of the Church.

High Prophet Crozeus

Lord Aequitas

You're forgetting my previous job Razz

And my current one as HH.

And the fact Impitus is on public record since 44 ABY.

Plus, seeing as it utilises Makashi and Djem So, both of which I excel at, I am quite good at the form.

High Prophet Crozeus

Even still, Praxeum and I are the only known practitioners of it Very Happy

You can just stick with Makashi and Djem So Razz

Lord Aequitas

Actually, I can make many people known practioners.

*cough*High Historian*cough*

It's been in Praxeums's profie for ages. Anyone can be a practioner.

High Prophet Crozeus

By that I meant no one else here has actually said they use it.

Lord Aequitas

True.

And I stick by what I said on MSN though.

Although, since it's in public records, anyone can use it.

Major General Celestial

*Sneaks into private records and looks it up*

So anyone can use it if they don't want to be creamed by Praxeum?

Lord Aequitas

You'd still get creamed by Praxeum.

And it's not officially Form XIII.

So no, not anybody can use it. Church only, for the moment, I would assume. But since it's in Praxeum's profile, it's public.

I'll talk to Will. So, don't use it until I get back with an official answer.

Major General Celestial

I haven't even got through his profile all the way, so you shouldn't bother. If he wants me or anyone else to learn it he will state it and teach it himself.

*Hint, hint* Wink

Lord Aequitas

It's on page 2 of his profile. Anyone can use it.