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Dark Side origin

Where did the dark side originate who was the first to discover the hidden power of anger and rage
Isaah

I believe the story goes something like:

A group of Jedi didn't follow the rules and guidelines that they were supposed to and were banished. There they found a planet with a blooming civilization, they were called the Sith. And so on and so forth, they learned how to use lightsabers and became force-sensitive through many generations and such.

That's a very abstract paragraph though, I don't know the exact way they became formed... but it was something like that.
Lord Seti


I would suggest reading this:
http://thedarksithlords.myfreeforum.org/ftopic428.php
then:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Force
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sith
http://www.forceacademy.com/Dark/Sith_lecture9.htm

That will start you off. Remember, the work of Historian Scourge should be considered as primary, since there may be some variations in the various accounts. At least that is my own perspective on it.

Seti
Darth Acheron

I can answer that, and it goes far further back then that Seti, all the way to when there were two groups of people, two tribes, you could say, living on a world, so now, my friends, let me take you back to the Sith beginnings...

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Little is known about the genesis of the Jedi. The study of the Force - and the science behind the microscopic midichlorians that act as symbiotic Force carriers in most living things - had previously been practiced by the paladins of the Chatos Academy, the Followers of the Palawa, and the mystic order of Dai Bendu, on planets as diverse as Had Abbadon and Ondos. The specific tenets of the Jedi Order, however, are believed to have been set down on the dawn world of Tython where many Force-users harnessed the positive energy called the Ashla. Those who hungered to weild the Force for personal power dragged the planet into an exhausting conflict known as the Force Wars. From the ashes of this conflict, the Force users of Tython established the Jedi as a society of monastic warriors who obeyed the precepts of harmony, knowledge, serenity, and peace. Traditions of the Tython Jedi included a "Jedi Forge" initiation ceremony, in which hopeful members of the order channeled Force energy into metal-bladed swords, honing the weapons to a supernatural degree of sharpness and strength. In time, the Jedi of Tython would face threats from beyond their world. Using advanced, offworld technology, the Jedi forges were able to "freeze" a laser beam, resulting in a weapon that would eventually become the lightsaber. Taking it upon themselves to liberate other worlds from oppression, a proactive faction of Tython Jedi decided to go out into the Galaxy. These warriors became known as the Jedi Knights.

In time, a school of Jedi philosophy took root on the planet Ossus. The Force came to be understood according to the "Dark Side" and "Light Side" allignments, both reflecting aspects of the living Force (the in-the-moment manifestation of life energy) and the unifying Force (The cosmic expression of prophecies and destinies). The Jedi faced their first true test since the Force Wars when followers of the Force's Dark Side (Knwon in Tython lore as the Bogan) formed the legions of Lettow and made war against the young Order. - The New Essential Chronology


Unfortunately, the Jedi won that war, but that is the origins of our Order. The survivors of that war escaped to the planet upon which the Sith species were discovered, and the seeds of destruction were sown. Evil or Very Mad


*Gasp* So tired from typing so much! Very Happy
High Commander Vexen

you type alot like that
Darth Acheron

I know, because I seem to be the only one on this whole blasted site with a copy of the NEC. Twisted Evil
Lord Scourge

Or maybe just the only one who posts to the Holocron section who doesn't find more problems than answers in the NEC... Wink

-Scourge
Darth Acheron

Well, I like it, so there. *sticks out tongue*
High Commander Vexen

I actually have one I just let my friend borrow it
Darth Acheron

You have the NEC?
Darth Acrimonus

Quote:
I know, because I seem to be the only one on this whole blasted site with a copy of the NEC.


I've a copy as well.
High Commander Vexen

yeah I just don't quote it
Darth Acheron

You mean I'm doing all this work for nothing? Shocked

I could just be quoting page numbers...
High Commander Vexen

pretty much yeah
Lord Scourge

Commander Minious wrote:
Well, I like it, so there. *sticks out tongue*


Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it isn't a valuable resource, but I disagree with the place it's been given in continuity disputes. The Keeper of the Holocron said that it is the product of the best research they've been able to do, and in general, it out-weighs previous sources. However, it has both admitted inaccuracies: it lists the Sith of KOTOR II as Darth Nihilus, Darth Sion, Darth Traya and Darth Kreia... um... errr... how's that again? It also lists the destruction of the Ubese homeworld (you know, the one that biologically affected the entire species so that they always have to wear environmental suits) as being thousands of years after they appear in environmental suits in KOTOR II. The author simply admits that he didn't play the game and was just going off other people's notes about it, and no one had noted the presence of the Ubese.

However, when it comes to things like the retcon of the date of the foundation of the Sith Empire, which was already fixed once, and many writers have based their information on the previous fix, that's exactly the kind of thing where LFL is currently saying "this is an approved change to continuity, deal with it" and I'm saying that it causes more problems than it could possibly address - apparently they found some more early notes of Lucas and decided that it over-ruled the past ten years of SW books. So currently I find the NEC a useful reference, but I'm taking it with a massive grain of salt and I'm not sure I like the direction this takes the official continuity.

-Scourge
Prophet Scyrone

Hmmmm . . . you all present cool facts about the dark side . . . but I dont believe in the dark or lite side, i believe there is no side, only the force and the force alone.
Lord Seti

Scyrone wrote:
Hmmmm . . . you all present cool facts about the dark side . . . but I dont believe in the dark or lite side, i believe there is no side, only the force and the force alone.


Thats alright. The Dark Side doesn't believe that you exist either. Laughing

- Seti
Prophet Scyrone

But there is no Dark Side Laughing
Emperor Shadow

I believe that there are certain elements unique to a more evil and a more altruistic view of the Force. But I mostly believe that the will of the user dictates the actions of the Force. Motivation or not, it is action that ultimately decides the "Light" or "Dark" of a person.

On a side note, if there is a Hell for Dark Siders in Star Wars, I probably own beachfront property.
Lord Seti

Scyrone wrote:
But there is no Dark Side Laughing


Who said that? Oh yes, that "something" which we are calling Scyrone but which has no independent existence in & of itself? Laughing


But really, "the Dark Side" is as real as "the Light Side" which is as real as "There are no sides to the Force." All are true, depending on where you are standing. For example, think of a chair such as the torture chair below.



Of all the possible visual ( or physical ) angles you can view the chair, it is impossible to view all angles simultaneously. But whatever angle you view the chair from is true, it is simply not the absolute view. So any view is true...therefore yes "the Dark Side" does exist. So there! Run rings around you logically. Twisted Evil

- Seti
Prophet Scyrone

The Force is not a chair, the force is not visually viewable (unless it is manipulated by a power). The force is all around, us and it is in everything. If the force chose if it was lightside or darkside, then couldnt we say that some trees are light and some trees are dark? No. Besides, the force is there to be manipulated by us, not to choose what side it is. If it has the power to chose sides, then it has more power by itself then we think. Why do you think there is always a balance in the force? Because events throught the force do not just want darkside ir lightside. They are not biased. But they want equality.

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