Eragon and Star Wars

Darth Validus · Eragon and Star Wars

Damn...I just came back from the movie Eragon (again) and I just noticed the similarities between Star Wars and it! *(WARNING, THIS MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS!! READ AT YOUR OWN RISK!!)*

First off, the basic plot line mirrors that of A New Hope. Eragon is a one of the last Dragon Riders (similar to Luke being the one of the last Jedi) and has a special talent (like Luke's ability with the Force). He is a farmboy (like Luke) who would have never thought of ever being important. Also, while he was away, his uncle was killed by agents of the evil people (like Owen and Baru [SP?] being killed by the Stormtroopers). He is also trained by another Dragon Rider, Brom (like Obi-Wan training Luke). The area it is set in is ruled by an evil Lord who took over the land by betraying his order (like Vader betraying the Jedi) and virtually drove the Dragon Riders to extinction (like the purge of the Jedi). The only hope for the rebellion against the evil rulers is the Dragon Rider Eragon (like Luke being the only hope for the Rebellion). Eragon saves a lady (similar to Luke saving Leia) and his friend, Brom, dies (like Obi-Wan on the Death Star) while they were saving the lady. The ending battle is against the secret rebel outpost that they found by following Eragon (like the Empire placing a tracker on the Millenium Falcon and finding the base on Yavin IV). Then, the evil people lose and hope is restored to liberate everyone!

Now, if I missed anything, please add.

Emperor Shadow

You missed that the author admits he was heavily influenced by Star Wars.

Darth Validus

Thanks, I had forgotten. My brother is so convinced that Paolini and the books/movies aren't (which it just his passionate opinion) that he has threatened me. Oh, brotherly love... Rolling Eyes

Emperor Shadow

I refuse to read them for the following reason:

Tolkien spawned Earthsea. Earthsea is a LotR rip-off. Star Wars influenced Eragon.

Why would I want to read two originial and one rip-off in the same book?

Darth Validus

I never read them. I can't stand reading unless it involves the Lord of the Rings of Star Wars. My brother read them, however, and persuaded me to see the movie. It was better, IMO, than critics said.

Emperor Shadow

Bleh. I'm going to breakdown and see the movie I'm sure. Which will make me read the book. Which will make me cry because it's so bad.

Darth Validus

lol...I only got five sentences through the LOTR book (the big one with all three books in one). There is no way I'm reading Eragon or Eldest or the third one when it comes out.

Emperor Shadow

I <3 Lord of the Rings.

Darth Validus

I <3 the Lord of the Rings movies.

Emperor Shadow

Movies never do books justice.

Darth Validus

Indeed but, as I previously stated, I am not too fond of reading.

Lord Legacy · man

i thought the exact same thing having read the books, he is just like luke skywalker

Serino

dont they both move rocks arounf with there minds aka FOrce or magic (friend who read the book told me, i myself have never read the book)

Embeion

I thought Eragon and Eldest were great books........

Hand Atra

Lord Angmar

Never read the Eragon books, but I did see the movie. It was kida like Star Wars. My favorite Character is that Shade Guy.

High Commander Vexen

Durza!?!?!?!?! He is gay lol

Yeah combine LOTR and SW and you get Eragon

Lord Angmar

he aint gay he summons frikin Demons. Who is your favorite character "Arya"

High Commander Vexen

Hand Atra

Lord Angmar

Whatever, he was the closest thing to a Sith i thought.

Embeion

Durza is a whimpy shade...he's not even that powerful of a shade.

He got beat by a kid..so what if he is a dragon rider..But Durza was a shade..He should beable to rip Eragons head off his shoulders.

Lord Angmar

I agree there If there was Another Shade that woulld be cooler. Im going to refrase my statement Not Durza, but Shades would have to be my Favorite Characters.(Anyone that has read the second book tell me are there any shades or was Durza like the only one.)

Sentarian

The coolest Person im not Kidding has got to be Durza"s Captain of the Army, or King Galbatronix and Murtagh.

Hand Atra

Lord Angmar

So do the books ever mention any other Shades???

Ragatoe Aront

Not at all.

Hand Atra

Lord Legacy · no

they do not mention any other shades by name as in Durza but there had to be more sence others killed them

Marquis O'Dore

I think if you take Eragon for what it is, then it's okay. Like, I don't think about anything else, I just read it for the enjoyment of a fantasy book. Because as far as fantasy books go, it's not that bad. Though I am sure when you compare it to other fantasy books and find all the comparisons to star wars, it does indeed lose it's touch.

Darth Ezan

Eragon is in some ways like star wars but in some ways COMPLETELY different, like the "Everything has a secret name" thing, I loved how they mixed it in with magic, I just got done reading Eldest and I absoultely love the twists he put in, Christopher Paolini is a great writer, though he has his faults.

Lord Legacy · yes

yes it is a very wonderful series, he created an entire language and world all his own just because it has some parralless to star wars doesnt mean it isnt good if you think about it stars wars has some paralles to lord of the rings but star wars still is fantastic

Marquis O'Dore

Yeah, there is always going to be people taking from other authors. I mean, can we say anything about Tolkein taking a lot of his inspiration from Beowulf? Or even a lot of other fantasy writers taking ideas from Lloyd Alexander. There aren't many original writers anymore, most ideas have been taken.

Lord Angmar

True, but I think Tolkein acheived individuality with the whole concept of a One ring and stuff. Otherwise it could be considerdd copying

Lord Legacy · yes

every author takes peices from the authors he liked and that influenced him so there ya go

Darth Ezan

The movie somewhat sucked and was good, I give it a 2 out of 4.

Marquis O'Dore

The idea of the ringer-giver was actually taken from Beowulf...

Darth Virek

You are soooooooooo right Validus!!!!!!!!!Also in the second book Eragon meets an old Dragon Rider like Luke meets Yoda.He (Eragon) also has a vision thingy that his friends are in trouble in the second book just like Luke.

Xander Vos

To me Eragon was a complete dissapointment, and I hated it immensly. Will, don't bother with it, its a horrible book by a boy who tried to write an epic and failed miserably. The movie - I thought foolishly - could not possibly be worse than the book. I was wrong. Huge cuts in the plot, poor acting, and lack of any spectacular fighting scenes left me elated when the reel burned through five minutes from the end allowing me to get my money back.

In complete contrast, its sequel Eldest was fantastic. Yes, you would have to endure Eragon to get the most out of Eldest, but reading Eldest, I found it had been worth it, though I would never again read Eragon. Eldest was much better, and suceeded slightly better in the epic-rating. If anything, it was ten times better than Eragon could ever have been.

I only hope the drastic improvement continues in the third book, and that it is even better.

Grand Inquisitor Prognie

Epic? Don't think so, it wouldn't even fall under it considering epics are poetic.

Also, the movie is all right for those who have not read the book. Because I've spoken to a tons of people regarding the movie and it was split in half. Those who had read the book hated the movie, those who were oblivious to the book liked the movie. The fact that you know what is missing is what makes you hate it, just like Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire.

I do agree that Eldest is good, it has its plot twists and to be honest I didn't want to put the book down once I got into it.

Xander Vos

It attempts to be epic, I never said it was.

My sister, who hadn't read the book hated the movie as well.

Yes, it was, though I'm not on the edge of my seat for the third, I can wait.

Grand Inquisitor Prognie

It can't be an epic, it can't be an epic because it's a novel and not a dramatic poem. that's crucial, without that it can't be or attempt to be an epic.

Xander Vos

An epic isn't confined to poetry... Confused

Darth Virek

Even with all its copies Eragon and Eldest are pretty good but they did a absolutely HORRIBLE job on the movie like Xander Vos said.

Darth Barad-Dur

The movie was an abysmal faliure. LOTR and Eragon were both transformed into only LOTR and Eragon in name. I mean, they left out so many freakn things in both. It's almost entire diffrent stories.

High Commander Vexen

The LOTR movies where awesome. And I have read the 3 movie books, the Simarillion and the Hobbit, they come pretty damn close.

Darth Barad-Dur

Except for the major deviation from the books. Like, when the Witchking comes into the uppermost circles of Minas Tirith, and knocks Gandalf on his butt and Pippen rushes to save him. Or, when Treebeard says they decided not to go to war, and only does when he comes across the dead trees. And, Frodo sending Sam away. The movies aren't close to the books.

Now, don't get me wrong, they were awesome. They were superb from the movie goers point of view. But, from the purist view, they could have done alot better.

Grand Inquisitor Prognie

Hm, I thought you meant Epic as in, style of poetry and completely forgot about epic, a sub-genre of fantasy. Disregard my comments, though I am curious as to why you feel it fails as an epic?

Xander Vos

Because its about a teenage boy trying to save the world,*******to whatshisface the whole way.

LOTR was a unique idea, and was thus a brilliant epic. Even Star Wars, I guess, could be considered an epic. Both were original, brilliant ideas.

Eragon was a repeated idea of two brilliant originals, and failed to even live up to them.

High Commander Vexen

Xander Vos

Whats wrong with saying ******? I remember a time where on this site people could say frack and have no problem. What's changed?

Emperor Shadow

It's not so elegant.

High Commander Vexen

That pretty much sums it up.

Xander Vos

Emperor Shadow

A stronger word is not needed.

Probably our word censor. It's set to strike that with asterisks or 'banana,' if memory serves.

Darth Barad-Dur

That's what happens on my messageboard [url]civilwarrocks.editboard.com[/url]. The censor has either ------ or donkey.

Xander Vos

Durza

The movie was so off from the book that it makes me angry.