Greatest Sith

Jaden Nightsaber · Greatest Sith

((This may not be in the right place so if it is can some one move it.))

In your opinon who was or is the greatest Sith? This is a very tough decision to make in my eyes. There were so many great Sith through out the years. Exar Kun led the Sith War. Ulic-Quel Droma influenced Jedi several years after his death. Darth Bane created the Rule of Two. Darth Sidious may have mastered immortallity. Darth Vader almost single handedly wipped out the Jedi. And our Empress, a great leader. There are so may options, not just the ones I said. I can't pick one. What is your opionion?

Lord Scourge

Actually, Envy, this is exactly the right place for that question - this is the area for any question about Sith History that spans the eras.

The big question here is what is meant by "greatest" - most power over the Dark Side? Most power over the galaxy? Having the most lasting impact to benefit the Sith of all eras? Simply the best fighter?

I'm just going to have to go with who is personally the greatest Sith to me - Darth Vader. He's the one who made me want to grow up and become the villain. He's the one who taught me that You don't know the power of the Dark Side! He's the very definition of evil, an is the greatest villain of cinematic, or for that matter any fictional, history.

Others may go with someone like Sidious or Revan, who conquered the galaxy or held such a titanic hold over the Dark Side, but I have to just go with my feelings on this one.

-Scourge

Forge · Geatest Sith

One day ill be the greatest Sith in the Galaxy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Twisted Evil

Then no one can stop me not even the foolish Jedi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Twisted Evil

High Commander Vexen

Forge that isn't right

I say Exar Kun Because he was good with a saber and influenced jedi thousands of years after his death

Darth Tress

I think it would be Darth Vader too.

Isaah

Darth Nemesis.

He was by far the best Sith in history. His brutal tactics and mindblowing methods of torture make him the best at his job, killing Jedi. (I believe one of my site references refers to Darth Nemesis, saying this) Darth Nemesis attacked the Jedi temple single-handedly, and was struck down by <it was either a group of Jedi Masters, or Yoda himself> and afterwards they kept his Saber-Hilt to remind them Sith may still be amongst them.

Darth Acheron

Is this real?

Darth Cruiciatus

the saber hilt for my blades in my sig has his hilt.

Darth Acheron

But is Nemesis in any official source?

High Commander Vexen

He wasn't in anything that I could find

Darth Acheron

As I thought.

Isaah

Hold on, let me find the source...

"This is the oldest working single unit lightsaber known to exist. It was wielded by a sadistic Dark Jedi of the Sith in it's golden age. Not only was it used as a lightseptor but as a tool of torture. Nemesis took pleasure in making his enemies writhe in pain before finishing them off. This formidable weapon could be hurled across a room and impale it's unfortunate victim. The second rear activation crystal would activate on impact assuring the kill. Darth Nemeisis' reign of terror came to an end when the Jedi Rodann swiftly ended his life. This artifact now resides in the Jedi Temple as a reminder: the Sith may still be among us.
Special Features of this Lightsaber: Forward tallons can be used as piercing weapon, activation crystal at rear of hilt. "

Oh, it seems I was wrong about his death.

http://www.thelightsaber.com/historyD.htm

Darth Acrimonus

I was under the impression that Darth Nemisis was a fan-fiction character created by the lightsaber enthusiest who runs that website. He designed the hilt himself, as well as a few others for his family.

http://www.thelightsaber.com/IndexFolder/index2.htm

If you scroll down to "Custom Set 2" you'll see the hilt along with a "lifesize" Lego Saber. Slightly lower than that is his set of family sabers.

I could be misinterpreting the info, but it seems to be Nemisis is not part of the EU continuity.

Isaah

Darth Acrimonus

I'd heard of him, but only from the Lightsaber Histories on thelightsaber.com.

Darth Acheron

He cannot have been killed by Yoda, as Yoda was born in between the Ruusan defeat of the Sith, and Sidious' revelations of the Sith, and therefore it impossible Nemesis existed then.

Nemesis was not around before Ruusan, because of his use of the title Darth, which was abandoned after Revan and Malak more then 3 000 years before ANH.

So therefore he must have been before Revan and Malak, and that squeezes it tight, as that era was made up of a lot of Sith, which, fans are now taking advantage of to place their own Sith in amongst them.

Blight, if you don't read the books, you are missing out on the most enjoyable bits of Star Wars, and I feel very, very sorry for you. Believe me: If you don't read the books, and a character comes up you haven't come across, who is a Sith, don't believe it, as the only Sith not in the movies, are in comics or games, not books.

Darth Acheron

Ah ha. If you click on More Info, this comes up:

Darth Nelinik

Thats what I thought to. Right when I saw that picture I was getting a picture in my head of Darth Maul and this Darth Nememsis dude.

As for me I would have to say that the greatest Sith in my eyes was and still is Darth Revan.

1.Not only did he defeat the Mandalorians in the war but he was also a very talented tactician. If people had to die for victory then he would spend their lives.

2.He was a leader born. He was able to influence many Republic soldiers and Jedi Knights as well to follow him to the darkside and chase the Mandalorians to the outter rims. He made them turn tables.

3.Also after disappearing for sometime he finally made his appearance again as the new "Dark Lord" of the Sith. The highest rank a Sith Lord could recieve and if rules followed he was the only one to have that rank.

Now that I think of it he was like an early, early version of Darth Sidious.

Darth Cruiciatus

if you want to see a picture of that hilt with a blade, here is one:

and it's mine, not yours Wink

Darth Acheron

Well, Sam, I'm glad you know its a fake, and never actually existed in the Star Wars universe.

Lord Legacy · sith

Even though i would have to say in my opinion Darth Nihilus was the coolest sith but i would have to say either Darth Vader or Revan were the most powerful

High Commander Vexen

Hey if you like Nihilus so much make him your patron

Darth Acheron

Malak, choose Malak as your patron! Very Happy

Darth Acrimonus

Or, if you want power and the chance to act a little wacky, Joruus C'Baoth is the Patron for you!

Cool

Well, in all honesty, a Patron shouldn't be considered simply because of who his follwers are, but who you personally prefer. Malak is a powerful enemy, but having only played KotOR and not KotOR2 I can't judge Nihilus fairly...

Of the true Sith, I'd have to say the Exar Kun is probably the greatest, his spirit surviving in the temples on Yavin's moon for 1000s of years to cause Luke's student grief.

Darth Acheron

What do you mean true Sith? After Malak and Revan, all Sith were false, except for this Order.

Darth Acrimonus

Well my Patron, for one, isn't an actual Sith. He weilded the Dark Side, but had received no true Sith teaching. I did not mean to imply Malak or any other of the KotOR Sith were any less worthy of their titles than yourself or any of the members of our Empress' Sith.

Darth Acheron

I didn't mean it like that, I just thought you meant Malak was a false Sith, when it was really Ruin's Sith onwards that were false, as Ruin, as far as I know, had no training from a true Sith, and all previous Sith did, in one form or another.

Lord Scourge

Lord Legacy · patron

i would definatley have to chose Nihilus as my patron

Darth Acheron

Lord Scourge

Lord Legacy · Good

Well put Lord Scourge

Darth Acheron

Ah ok, yes, there is a short story on Bane's visitage of Dxun, which I have read, and now looking over it again, yes he does visit Freedon Nadd's tomb, which is all I wanted to know. As long as he is ordained, that that problem solved.

I amend my statement, all Sith between Ruin and Bane were false Sith, Bane not included, Ruin included.

Lord Scourge

...and I stand by my statement, that we do not know. A couple paragraphs of info on Darth Ruin's life does not tell us whether he was granted the position of Sith Lord by an ancient spirit or he simply assumed the name since no one was disputing him, or whatever else may have happened. We also don't know much of what happened in the intervening thousand years.

-Scourge

Darth Acheron

I know, and as soon as more information is released, I will amend my statement further, but based on information given now, my statement is correct, from a certain point of view. Wink

Dante

Revan, Sidious both master tacticiens and skilled in swordsmenship and the force.

Mrs.Smith

no contest it has to be Darth Vader.

High Commander Vexen

Darth Acheron

So your saying the Sith Lord who planned for decades to take over the Galaxy, and did it with no blood shed against him, and his greatest enemy taken out by their most trusted allies doesn't know anything about strategy??

Serino

Joruus C'Baoth wasn't sith he was a deranged Jedi clone, but he was powerful.

Darth Tress

Darth Bane created the Rule of Two:I know Jaden posted this on the first post I just wanna point out Bane did not invent it, just reused it.

Jacen will be eventually, but for now it is the original Vader as we knew him in 4 5 6, before he was made to look like a fruit cup big boned sissy girl.

Sovereign Defender Tarna

Darth Revan, without a doubt.

Lord Angmar

Nihilus. He was able to consume entire planets, he built and held his flagship together with the force,and escaped death on Malachor.

High Commander Vexen

This topic is a year old lol

Dooku pwns all, cept Nihilus and Revan

Brigadier General Matas

Krayt, he joined the Sith together and took over the New Galactic Empire using manipulative measures and destroyed the weakness within the Sith that was the Rule of Two and the constant Betrayals

Qadir

Darth Bane
During his time, he thought that the Brotherhood Of Darkness didn't have the sufficient power and were too weak to defeat the Jedi. So he called upon the Force and explored the Valley of Dark Lords and also found and studied the Darth Revan holocron on the planet Lehon. Which lead to his better understanding of the Dark Side as well as knowing that the ways of the Sith were useless....
"The Brotherhood must be purged. The Sith must be destroyed and rebuilt."

Obviously, after succeeding on killing the "old" Sith with the Thought Bomb (genius idea i might add Twisted Evil

) and killing many Jedi in the process, he built the New Sith Era and enforced the Rule Of Two.

Id also like to add something i found on Wookieepedia which is worth reading:
- It is also important to note that Darth Bane is a good candidate to be the Sith'ari, because he destroyed the Brotherhood of Darkness and the generic Sith Order, and replaced it with the Rule of Two, an event, which, eventually, led to the rise of the Empire under the rule of Darth Sidious and the near-extermination of the Jedi.

Laughing

Imagination time: WHAT IF Darth Bane did not rebuild the Sith and we were all still under the command of the Brotherhood Of Darkness (without the Rule Of Two) ??
*(its a rhetorical question so just THINK of the result - no need to reply)*

enjoy...

Lord Legacy · though

though I am partial to Nihulus I must say that Revan was probally the most powerful Sith

Darth Lithium

It's Naga Sadow for me guys. I apologize mi Lord Vader..... Sad McGee

Sentarian

the greatest sith of all time is Sentarian lol jk

id have to say Nihilus hes awsome and i want his mask
i also like how he drains the life out of everything. The Overkill of the century

Darth Thrax

Oh yeah Nihilus is the Ultimate Sith Lord.
Although there were many other great Sith Lords, none of them had the power to consume planets as well as the Force. Tim

Royal Guardsman Zeram

You may be right Acheron, but you may also be wrong. You don't think Korriban is a big attraction to Dark Jedi? And as you would all know, Korriban is a place filled with Sith spirits. He started an Empire that conquered most of the galaxy, and I thinkthat would most likely include Korriban. Now, think about it, what more then a great place to control an army of darkness, then on Korriban? It contains the teachings of the Sith, and the spirits of the Dark Lords of old. I mean ,this isn't the only place they could of found teachings of the Sith, they could of gone to Zoist for instance, even Yavin IV! They coul dof found the teachings of the Sith easily, which is why the Sith still exsist today.

Major General Celestial · g

Revan is the greatest.

Lord Legacy · k

Revan is a great Sith Lord but he ultimatley betrayed the Sith and Malak to rejoin the Jedi, there can be an argument made that Darth Bane is the greatest Sith of all time. His work alone started the galaxy down the path that ended the Jedi with Palpatine starting the empire. Bane began the rule of two.

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