Darth Ultiria
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Training DuelWho: Anyone of Sith Apprentice rank
Where: Dojo
Weapons: Lightsabers and the Force
((I have posted this on the other site, so if either is accepted first I will have the other locked))
Jerina prowled the dojo like a great cat, eager to test her abilities on an apprentice like herself. She had seen the way most of the men here looked at her, barely hiding their lust, and the jealousy in the eyes of teh otehr female Sith. Jerina smiled. She hated how they looked at her, treated her like she was some dumb bimbo. Today, she was going to prove she was no mere pretty face. Her hand curled around her lightsaber handle. That, and it would be good to fight someone equal to her rank. Tarna was just too good. The thought excited her to no end. With the Jedi, she slaughtered Guardian Masters at their game, yet the first Sith she meets in battle, is impossible even to score a hit on. She smiled again. No wonder the Sith are in power. Crozeus was right, she thought. I did make the right choice.
I wonder though, she mused, if one day she would be capable of the feats in the Force Tarna had given her a taste of.
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Darth Suspiria
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[OOC: I apologize. I posted to the wrong thread. I am not supposed to duel here. Could the post please be deleted.]
Adriel Jailene Tilar entered the dojo. Darth Malice wanted her to duel and Jerina, apprentice of Shadow Protector Tarna had issued a challenge. She enjoyed dueling though had not been involved in one involving the Sith before.
Adriel walked with a willowy grace, her footsteps like a predator leaving no impression behind. Her previous duels had been in the Outsider Citadels or sometimes on the planets the thieves had stopped at. They had all been fought with daggers and conventional swords. Today she carried a lightsaber with her. Her skill with it was limited, but she hoped adequate for the task at hand.
It was a red, single bladed lightsaber with a black hilt. Her other weapons were her hands and feet which she was fairly skilled with. She entered the dojo and clearly, in a voice raised above the din said, "I am Adriel Jailene Tilar, apprentice to Darth Malice."
I have come to accept the challenge of Jenina, apprentice to Shadow Protector Tarna to a duel. Then she bowed.
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Sovereign Defender Tarna
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(( I don't know what you mean by wanting the post to be deleted, but Jerina is my apprentice, not that of Crozeus. ))
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High Prophet Crozeus
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((Why would you want it deleted? And yes, not my apprentice))
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Darth Suspiria
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[OOC: Jerina our duel has been approved if you are still interested.]
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Darth Ultiria
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((Of course))
Jerina watched her opponent enter the arena. She was tall, attractive and graceful. However, Jerina's sharp eyes noted that she held her lightsaber too tightly, and although her eyes betrayed nothing, she was clearly no lightsaber expert. Like me she thought. Jerina guessed she was a ex-criminal hardened on the streets of some industrial planet.
She quickly threw her robe aside, igniting it and swirling it expertly around her body, attempting to confuse Adriel with it's movements, un-natural because of the curve, and tuned it into a salute, before coming into the part 3 of the form of Vaapaad.
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High Prophet Crozeus
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((I will GM)
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Darth Suspiria
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Adriel entered the arena moving lithely, tall and fluid a wolf in motion. She spotted her opponent on the other side of the dojo. She was an extraordinarily beautiful woman who held her favored weapon with ease.
Adriel had been holding her crimson lightsaber tightly, deliberately, an attempt at subterfuge. Jerina began to swirl her cloak and ended the motion in a salute. Adriel was neither fooled or mesmerized by the movements and held her ground. This swordwoman has more experience than I in the formalities of swordplay, but the grit for battle is a different matter. Adriel thought to herself.
She brought her lightsaber vertically in front of her face. Swish..Swish across the first in a Makashi salute to her opponent. Adriel then took the appropriate low guard stance, preferring to stand side on. Her blade point was down. She looked directly at Jerina and waited for the move to come.
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Darth Ultiria
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Jerina noticed now the determination in her opponent's eyes. Had it been a ruse? No time to think about that now. She stepped forward, watching carefully for Adriel to move, and then circled her, like a predator waiting for its catch. Her blade hummed in tune to Adriel and the blades crosse each other in her eyes. I wonder, does this woman know who I am? Jerina mused. Does she have any idea what I am capable of? That Jedi Masters could not stand against me? That Dark Lord Tarna himself, one of the greatest duelists of this order, was unbalanced by me?
She smiled. She had done her research, on all of the apprentices here. She knew how Darth Malice fought, from Crozeus's duel with him. Therefore, she would use similar moves, since she is not born to the lightsaber, as Jerina was. It was time.
Quick as a flash, Jerina lunged, her curved blade arcing towards Adriel's face.
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Darth Suspiria
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Adriel anticipated the bladestroke coming towards her face and flowed out of its way raising her own blade to stop its descent. Sparks floated down upon the two duelists, a golden rainfall, like miniature shooting stars.
This woman was trained as a Jedi, had entered the Jedi Guardians, and was a member of the Crimson Blade WeaponMasters. Adriel did not have the benefit of that formal training. She however had been taught.
She was new to the Sith, new to her apprenticeship with Darth Malice. So far they had been learning each other's mettle. Weapons training was only just beginning. Adriel however had some training from Narina.
Narina was one of the thieves who had taken her in when she was a child. The other thieves had whispered that she had once been trained in the Force. Dark or Light, Sith or Jedi, no one knew. No one asked. Narina had shuttered places in her mind. Her eyes displayed locked doorways beyond which no one dared venture. She had trained Adriel, though with a conventional sword, not a lightsaber. Adriel had learned swiftly, and done well.
She also had her experience with streetfighting, her hands and feet deadly weapons. When your opponent's hands were superiorly skilled you used your feet. Adriel spun left foot out and legsweeped Jerina lifting her up off the ground. Her feet came out from under her and she flew backwards......
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Darth Malice
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[I'll GM as well.]
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Darth Ultiria
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Jerina easily used the momentum to flip fully backwards, coming back up and spinning 180 degrees, feinting to Adriel's left. She then turned, lightning fast and slashed diagonally at Adriel's right.
She is more skilled than I thought. Jerina grinned. More fun for me then.
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Darth Suspiria
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Adriel anticipated Jerina's movements and as the diagnol slash came towards her right side she utilized a semi-circular parry. It trapped Jerina's blade with the motion and Adriel danced back.
She chuckled in her exhilaration of the duel. Jerina was skilled! then quickly schooled her thoughts back into focus. In a fleche manuever she struck quickly and streaked past Jerina. Her opponent's back was now to her and she flicked Jerina with the foible aross the left shoulder-blade.
Adriel then used a compound attack, feinting to the right of Jerina, and in a surprise manuever trompemented, palmstriking Jerina in the shoulder she had just flicked....
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Darth Ultiria
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Jerina anicipated the attack, having been forced to watch endless holovids of hand-to-hand combat. Of course, none of them involved a lightsaber but in Jerina's mind it was just a sword. She allowed herself to be thrown forward, using the momentum to spin her lightsaber, which was outstretched to her right, around her back towards Adriel's exposed arm, too fast for her to avoid.
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High Prophet Crozeus
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((Sorry to butt in but Adriel please edit your post where you say Jerina is my apprentice.))
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Darth Suspiria
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{OOC: The post is edited Darth Crozeus}
Adriel once again anticipated Jerina's attack which utilized a very clever manuever. She went in quartata, turning so that the lightsaber only struck her sleeve, tearing and burning it. The smell of singed material wrinkled their noses, but the duel proceeded undisturbed.
Adriel then used a change of engagement and the two lightsaber blades crossed, casting a ruby glow upon the dojo floor. The blades glissaded and sparks sprayed striking the near wall.
In a cunning move, Adriel then utilized a passata-sotto, dropping a hand firmly on to the floor, sliding under her opponent's blade and straightened her own swordarm striking Jerina squarely in the thigh. She then continued her forward motion in a tuck position, rolled and bounded back up to her feet. Adriel swiftly turned back towards her adversary to see what damage she had done returning to the en garde position.
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High Prophet Crozeus
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| Adriel Jailene Tilar wrote: |
Adriel Jailene Tilar entered the dojo. Darth Malice wanted her to duel and Jerina, apprentice of Darth Crozeus had issued a challenge. | [/u]
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Darth Ultiria
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Jerina simply bore it. She had attempted an advanced passada attack on her Master, and he simply took it, using the advantage when her back was turned. Jerina utilised this now, coming down hard and fast on Adriel before she had fully turned. Now, Jerina raised her blade in a quent style, but with the blade diagonal, and came forward, knocking back attacks with purposely weak ripostes.
Soon, the pair came to the edge of the ring. Suddenly, Jerina came down into tierce, hard. She leapt into a frenzy of attacks, unbeleiveably fast, triple-feints, deluxe compounds, an array of advanced Jedi moves Jerina knew Adriel would not have seen before. One of her attacks would have to hit, such was the speed and frequency of them.
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Darth Suspiria
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Adriel and Jerina had dueled across the dojo to the edge of the arena. Jerina had suddenly lunged, utilizing a variety of swift techniques and movements. One struck Adriel on the arm. She ignored the pain. We are even in strikes now but it is time to step up the pace.
Adriel employed a compound-riposte, her first move a beat which pushed her opponent's blade aside. Foible for foible the two women circled the arena, each seeking a clear advantage. Attack...parry...attack...parry. The lightsaber blades held their conversation in swift, steady, even sounds...click...clack...click...clack.
Though Jerina had more training than she, Adriel made up for that lack in pure grit and determination. Her hand to hand combat skills were highly developed. They had been necessary to survive and she did not hesitate to employ them now.
Adriel used an appel deliberately startling Jerina with a loud foot stamp. She slipped past her blade and in a corps-a-corps slammed into Jerina knocking her over and sending her lightsaber soaring through the air. It arced and landed on the floor spinning like a top.
Adriel then leapt forward going on the attack. She double touched Jerina once on each shoulder.
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Darth Ultiria
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Jerina hissed, drawing the stinging pain to feed her strength. She knew that the Sith used any techniques to win, but after 5 years of extensive Jedi training, it was hard to adjust to corps-a-corps. She decided she would have to react in an unorthodox way as well. Before Adriel could return to en garde, Jerina's hand shot out, hurling her saber into the air. and grabbed Adreil's hilt. She then brought her saber to her with the Force, catching it in her other hand, and then arced it round towards Adriel's midsection.
That was another thing she had that others didn't. The ability to fight with both hands. Two lightsabers were frowned upon by Jedi, but there was nothing against ambidextrous pupils. Jerina hoped this talent would through Adriel off guard, long enough to allow her the opening she needed. Or, she would win now. Either way, I still win Jerina thought.
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Darth Suspiria
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Adriel gasped at the sting as the lightsaber glanced across her midsection. It was not a deep wound, that she could tell. She schooled her mind and thought about Narina. Narina had taught her many things. Adriel could still hear Narina's words Never allow your weapon to be taken and kept! She could hear Darth Malice asking her why she wanted to be a Sith. Those words fueled her into action.
Furiously she axe-kicked Jerina's arm knocking the lightsaber out of it and then force-pulling it back to herself. It slid like a rocket across the floor and leapt into her outstretched hand. She buffeted Jerina with kicks.
First a ushiro geri kick to Jerina's right side followed by a bandae yeop chagi to the other. Adriel spread her arms like wings and in a butterfly kick she became airborne. She enhanced it with the force and her right foot struck Jerina squarely in the chest. She flew backwards, and Adriel soared over the top of her arms still spread. A hawk in flight she flipped in the air and landed on the smooth wooden floor, legs bent to cushion the landing.
She tapped her retrieved lightsaber on her palm and stared hard at Jerina.
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Sovereign Defender Tarna
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(( Consider this a warning, Adriel. Watch yourself. ))
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Darth Suspiria
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{OOC: I would be extremely interested to know what I have done so differently than my opponent to be publicly chastised in a duel thread Shadow Protector Tarna. I would appreciate an explanation.}
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Darth Malice
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[OOC: I would also appreciate an explanation. If you're going to post a warning, post a reason for that warning. If it is due to the knocking loose of the saber, please read the post directly above Adriel's. If you wish to also GM, please say so.]
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High Prophet Crozeus
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((While he has not announced his intentions as GM, he is still a Dark Lord and we should respect his words. I think Adriel put too many attacks into one post, without allowing Jerina to react.))
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Darth Suspiria
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{if you look at the post from Wed. Sept 17, 2008 at 2:21 pm by Jerina, you will see Darth Crozeus a large number of moves which I also could not respond to. Why is it different if I do so?}
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High Prophet Crozeus
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((You have described exactly what you did. Which is good for posting. Jerina simply says things like "a flurry of attacks". This is fine as it doesn't control your charcter. In a realistic duel (SW wise) not every attack is a specilaized one. This isn't real fencing, remember. The only instance is when jerina mentions the two of you coming to the end of the duelling ring. She then describes her attack. You should do something similar, ratehr than lots of well described attacks.
"She buffeted Jerina with kicks.
First a ushiro geri kick to Jerina's right side followed by a bandae yeop chagi to the other... her right foot struck Jerina squarely in the chest. She flew backwards..."
If you edit this bit out, it would be acceptable. You can put the rest in after Jerina reacts.))
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Darth Suspiria
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[I still don't see how it is different Darth Crozeus. That mine have more details should be irrelevant. Both of us still use multiple moves. What if I had wanted to respond to triple feints or deluxe compounds. Or for that matter, to one of her attacks would have to hit... Neither did I have the opportunity to respond to those. We also don't know if that is what Shadow Protector Tarna was 'warning' about.]
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High Prophet Crozeus
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((I think he is interpreting your details in every move as threatening to god-mod. Rather than clog up the thread I think it would be best to see what he has to say.))
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Darth Suspiria
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{I am in agreement Darth Crozeus that we should see what he has to say}
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Sovereign Defender Tarna
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(( My concern was about the part where you kicked her in the chest, and subsequently flew through the air. That seems a little out there for a fresh apprentice. And yes, too many moves in one post is something to be avoided. ))
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High Prophet Crozeus
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((Thank you for clearing it up, Lord Tarna. Shall Adriel edit her post?))
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Darth Suspiria
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{I believe that I see it in this manner. Jerina only joined this site just before me. She is also supposedly a new apprentice. Yet not one word was said by Shadow Protector Tarna about her claims to be the absolute best swordswoman in the galaxy. Or that she 'unbalanced a supposedly powerful Sith Lord'. Only my posting is excessive for some reason.
I will not only not edit my post, but Darth Malice unfortunately you will need to find a new apprentice. I am not upset at you. This is my last post.
Ciao to individuals like Tarna whose ego is bigger than his IQ.
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High Prophet Crozeus
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((That is unfair. It is simply her profile which claims her to be a former weaponmaster. She still is defeated by Sith Lords, which helps her develop her skills as she could defeat Jedi and now she knows she can't defeat every Sith. There is no need to over-react.))
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Sovereign Defender Tarna
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(( Jerina's character has had extensive weapons training, and yes, she did unbalance a Sith Lord. I was there...it was me. Like I said, there's no need to edit the post. I'm just asking you to keep it down a bit. There's no reason to overreact. ))
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Hobarth Kivar
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| Quote: | Monday Sep. 15, 2008 1:52pm.
I wonder, does this woman know who I am? Jerina mused. Does she have any idea of what I am capable of? That Jedi Masters could not stand against me? That the Dark Lord Tarna himself one of the greatest duelists of this order was unbalanced by me? |
That is from this thread. Not a profile. As a good friend of Adriel I see things as follows. No one thought that Jerina would be defeated in this duel. That is what the issue is. By fencing standards Adriel is defeating Jerina. By other standards such as hand to hand combat strikes too.
What I see here is sour grapes. An attempt by Jerina's Master to disrupt the duel because his apprentice is not winning. Simple as that. Put that ole lipstick on the pig I say. Poor sportsmanship. Using his authority as a long standing member here to unfair influence.
That's how my good ole boy southern eyes see things. If I were Adriel I would surely look to post elsewhere. Her writing skill are excellent as others here have acknowledged.
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High Prophet Crozeus
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((No offense, but who are you? It was a comment from the moderator of the thread to an apprentice threatening to god-mod. No one has insulted Adriel's writing skills, which are, as you say, excellent. However, in a duel, good writing is not the path to success. Considering you, this being your first post, seem to have an impeccable knowledge of this site, I implore you to look at the other duels. Mine and Samuel's, for instance. Do not intefere in a thread that has no relevance to you, especially since you have not done anything else on this site.))
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Hobarth Kivar
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Who am I? As I already declared I am a good friend of Adriel's. I am not interfering as there is no longer anything to interfere in. Adriel has quit the site. She was not kidding. She just got off the telephone with my girlfriend a few minutes ago. She isn't returning here.
I didn't see her doing any god-modding. I see sour grapes. That's what I see. I see Jerina from the beginning, assuming (we all know that saying about where assuming leads to) that she was going to win. Setting it up with that supposed 'experience' to do just that.
Then I see Adriel come in and kick tail. She studies my pal Adriel does. I am a 'real weapons master' and she did exactly as she should. The only god-modding is in the minds of those who thought their duelist would win hands down. Are you not Jerina's brother in real life? I find it fascinating, truly I do that the two people protesting are her Master and her brother.
There is no further need for discussion. I won't be returning either. This site is bad news.
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Sovereign Defender Tarna
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(( Well, this is just general madness. Clearly you don't know me, or how this site works. Frankly, if Adriel wants to get this dramatic over constructive criticism then this isn't the site for her. If she wants an immature Star Wars experience, try rebels.myfreeforum.org ))
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Darth Ultiria
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((Wow. Seriously what happened here? Jeez. Lord Tarna, does this count as a duel, or do I have to do another one?))
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High Prophet Crozeus
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((Ouch. Harsh to rebels lol. A shame though, she was a talented writer, she just needed to brush up on the rules. Sorry sis, you might have to do another unless Tarna says otherwise.))
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Hobarth Kivar
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I do declare I nailed it right on the head. Brother and sister.
Overdramatic? Let's see who started things off with a warning with no explanation? Why I do believe it was you Tarna, wasn't it? No explanation and no reason. It was brother Crozeus who started coming up with the explanation.
I read rather well for a good ole boy and I read all the rules. Adriel didn't break any. Immature? This morning I have seen boys pretending to be men and men with the mentality of boys. (You fit the second Tarna, Crozeus the first.) My Southern sense of curiousity is raised too by the notion that only you Tarna (Jerina's Master) objected. Aren't there two other moderators for the Dojo? What rules did she break? "Though shalt not defeat my apprentice." There was assuredly nothing constructive about anything to do with this. Not one darn thing.
Now I notice little missy Jerina in the mix after she was silent for over a day. My my we got our way didn't we? She complained of course which is what brought Tarna into things in the first place. "Charming little lady" I'd say. One that manipulated her own way and got it.
No this isn't the site for Adriel. A site where the rules benefit the favorites. The immaturity is here. That's where the immaturity is.
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High Prophet Crozeus
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((A shame. I thought you had gone. Jerina hasn't complained. Beforehand, Adreil and myself were in agreement to see what Tarna had to say, and all I had done before that was speculate. Afterwards, I simply asked if it was necessary for Adriel to edit her post. Jerina hasn't seen what the problem is. Also, it is not appreciated here to reference age in a point of conversation. Especially when, chances are, you don't know it. I think I am older than Tarna, when her far out-ranks me. So don't attempt to assume there are any 'favourites' here.))
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Hobarth Kivar
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No attempts are necessary. The 'favorites' are obvious. Still haven't seen a quote of what rule she supposedly broke and exactly how Crozeus.
Because it doesn't exist. She didn't break any. I don't believe for one second that Jerina didn't complain.
If Tarna were a fair person he would have taken note of what he saw as a problem. Then as Jerina's Master excused himself from the process. Brought the subject of what he saw wrong to the other moderators and the Emperor. Then stepped back and let them decide. But he didn't do that did he? There was nothing fair about any of this. Doesn't matter however. Adriel is already looking for a new site.
My advice was, choose more carefully this time.
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Major General Celestial
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(As an inoccent bystander who has nothing at all to do with Jerina or Adriel, they were both god-modding. They didnt give each other a chance to respond to the others actions. That is what god-modding is, not some"she did the right thing" boggart crap. Excuse me, but I am clearing this up.)
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High Prophet Crozeus
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((Fair enough. I don't think there was any extreme god-modding, which is why Tarna ony issued a warning.))
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Hobarth Kivar
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I do believe (southern drawl) that Celestial said both parties were god-modding. The public chastisement was only given to Adriel. Fair enough is when both duelists are treated equally. Which they were not. My daddy always said that fair is as fair does. Just a little saying of his.
I have been doing my reading. Cameron Krill was not allowed to come in with a Master's rank. You were involved in that discussion weren't you Crozeus? But Jerina was allowed to post a bio with a CrimsonbladeMASTER rank. Gives an unfair advantage doesn't it? Just another sign of it on this site.
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High Prophet Crozeus
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((Well, for one doing your reading, you should know that Krill actually called himslef a Sith Lord, which is a rank earned on this site. Jerina had had previous experience IC as a Jedi WeaponMaster. She came onto this site IC as a Dark Adept, just as everyone else. What's more, I had no part to play in the approval of Jerina. Krill is my apprentice and he understands why he ws not allowed to keep his title of Sith Lord. Notice how Jerina doesn't have "CrimsonbladeMASTER" in front of her name. When she reaches Sith Minion, she will be given her Darth title.))
You want a quote? Fine.
| Emperor Shadow wrote: | When roleplaying, it is important to keep a couple of key considerations in mind; always have a sense of perspective and offer realism in response to the recreational postings of another user. Importantly, it is also to remember that everyone here comes to escape the drama and theatrics of the real world. Stay cordial and have fun!
Additionally, God-Modding [hijacking another user’s character for the purpose of a hasty, favorable end in your favor] is strictly prohibited. Under no circumstance is it permissible for a user to dictate the progression of another user’s intellectual property.
Exceptions can be made. Fantastically written and probable character back stories and biographies are often praised by Staffers and veteran users. We seek to create a realistic experience. So if you receive training from a rogue Sith like Kreia or the Dark Woman [a Dark Horse Comics character killed by Darth Vader after the Clone Wars], make it believable.
In the same vein, extraordinary powers are permissible if A.) No one challenges your claim to that power or B.) The rules of the roleplay permit exploration of non-standard Force powers. Typically a user posts rules to a roleplay, such as “This duel will take place in an arena. The arena has been abandoned for a generation; rocks and moss overgrow much of the area. Standard Force powers, standard Sith weapons, and no killing.” However, someone else may choose: “This group battle takes place in an operational droid factory on Geonosis. All Force powers are acceptable.”
Usually, a user has an inventory of their personal weapons listed somewhere. If they do not, simply ask them what it is they are bringing into a roleplay. Sometimes, given location, a topic-starter has a definite home-turf advantage in that they can preset mines or other Sithly booby traps. This is not god-modding, this is simple and devious preparation.
Otherwise, we’re all here to have fun. Being cordial and cooperative in the face of adversity lends you a lot of credibility on this forum. Be smart about posting, that is the bottom line in this entire roleplay process. |
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Lord Aequitas
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No meaning to be rude, but if you don't like the site GET OFF IT! We don't like people belittling the site.
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Darth Ultiria
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| Hobarth Kivar wrote: | I do believe (southern drawl) that Celestial said both parties were god-modding. The public chastisement was only given to Adriel. Fair enough is when both duelists are treated equally. Which they were not. My daddy always said that fair is as fair does. Just a little saying of his.
I have been doing my reading. Cameron Krill was not allowed to come in with a Master's rank. You were involved in that discussion weren't you Crozeus? But Jerina was allowed to post a bio with a CrimsonbladeMASTER rank. Gives an unfair advantage doesn't it? Just another sign of it on this site. |
You pathetic, petty little man. Get off here and never come back. Why must you ruin what other people are having. Is there a way to get him banned?
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High Prophet Crozeus
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((We do try to avoid name-calling Jerina. Thank you, Aequitas, for that wonderful comment . I think it is up to the admins to get him banned.))
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Hobarth Kivar
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My my the lady has her dander up. Actually I think the pity goes to you Jerina. What a nice little racket you have here. Get a title but its not in your rank, but still you use it in your posts. You get to god-mod all that you want but your opponent doesn't. I didn't say that you were here Master Crozeus. Tell me aren't all the apprentices treated alike? I must have missed it somewhere along my journeys in Sith Lord land but where is Jerina's training thread? Doesn't she have one just like all the other apprentices.
This is my last post of course. I know I will be banned. Goes without saying. This site shamed itself today. This situation was totally unfair to Adriel. Favoritism was shown to another member. It is just as simple as that. Adriel joined her because someone told her this was the"bread and butter of Star Wars sites." She wanted a good place to post. You all proved that to be totally wrong today I'm afraid.
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Hobarth Kivar
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My my the lady has her dander up. Actually I think the pity goes to you Jerina. What a nice little racket you have here. Get a title but its not in your rank, but still you use it in your posts. You get to god-mod all that you want but your opponent doesn't. I didn't say that you were her Master Crozeus. Tell me aren't all the apprentices treated alike? I must have missed it somewhere along my journeys in Sith Lord land but where is Jerina's training thread? Doesn't she have one just like all the other apprentices? The 'little lady' is like a scalded cat because her game is being exposed. Right Jerina? Any admin who takes a look see if they're honest will know that I am right. She is being treated differently than the other apprentices. The fact is she couldn't stomach and Tarna couldn't either that she was losing the duel. That's the facts.
This is my last post of course. I know I will be banned. Goes without saying. This site shamed itself today. This situation was totally unfair to Adriel. Favoritism was shown to another member. It is just as simple as that. Adriel joined her because someone told her this was the"bread and butter of Star Wars sites." She wanted a good place to post. You all proved that to be totally wrong today I'm afraid.
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Lord Aequitas
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The only shame today is on you. You have brought shame upon yourself and Adriel. You namecalling, belittlement and sarcasm was totally uncalled for.
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High Prophet Crozeus
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((So, more proof you haven't read very well. In the assembly hall there is a thread - the beta site. In her training thread Tarna states that they will continue it on the new site. There is her training thread.))
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Hobarth Kivar
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Ah well then Crozeus the training thread is my bad then. I am man enough and adult enough to admit when I am wrong. Can't say the same for the rest of you. No Aequitas. Your sense of what honor and shame are are way off base. The shame is here with this site. That's where the shame is. Now that I admitted MY WRONG I can go knowing I defended a good friend and a good person well.
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Lord Aequitas
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My honour and loyalty is bang on, the same cannot be said for you. Perhaps you should bugger off the site and let your friend fend for herself. This could have been sorted long ago but your posting has enflamed it. I now I only speak for myself when I ask you to leave. Your only posts here have been to start fights. You belittle the site yet stay on it to further your petty, weak argument.
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High Prophet Crozeus
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And this site is not weak. Over 15 people joined after you, in just over a month. You could survey hundreds of our members, and they would all agree that this site is one of, if not the best. As I said before, Adriel had writing talent, that could have been very useful here. But she decided to give up when a mod warned her. People have warned me loads of times. I didn't protest, I simply went along with it. And now I have many respectable positions, as you can see in my sig, for a comparitively low rank.
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Hobarth Kivar
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There is no training thread on the new site for Jerina. Adriel refuses to be mistreated. That is what Tarna did. His warning to one and not the other is patently unfair and not right. I said I was going but people kept posting no? So stop posting and I will. You have been just as inflammatory Aequitas and I haven't called you one name have I?
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High Prophet Crozeus
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So I suppose this thread clealy marked TRAINING FOR JERINA is nothing then.
http://dark-flame.net/tdsl/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=76
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Supreme Commander Alor
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Alright. That is enough. What we have here was a simple case of misunderstanding, blown way out of proportion by flaming and the inability to just learn from your mistakes and get along.
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Hobarth Kivar: Your posting was uncalled for. All you did was complicate the matters and draw out a conversation that only serves to increase someones post count, nothing more. And there is a training thread., I would know, I host the Beta Site.
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But from what I can see, there was nothing wrong with Adriel's post, other than ethics. Normally one gives their opponent a chance to defend themselves against your attack. That is what I believe Tarna was talking about when he warned you.
Jerina did say, "frenzy of attacks" and does list a few of them, she gives Adriel a chance to respond to them, merely stating that one or two should hit Adriel, but not that they do hit Adriel. That is why you were called out, Adriel, or that is the only logical reasoning I can find.
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What is truly wrong here is the flaming and out crying. Instead of just saying, "Sorry, Lord Tarna and Jerina. I will try to refrain from doing that again." You call him out on it. The problem with this being an international forum is that many posts can happen when one is sleeping, and so Tarna or Malice or Crozeus might nor have even seen Jerina's post but did see yours.
Why try and pick a fight by blatantly calling him out on his warning. While an explanation would have been better, you could have PM'd him for an explanation, keeping everyone else out of this and talking it over with him in Private, debating it without the involvement of others. Then coming back here to edit your post or not and continue the duel.
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What I am truly against is Jerina's use of titles she has not earned. I can write up a fantastic back-story for a character, giving him amazing powers and skills, perhaps making him the Jedi Grandmaster turned evil. But that does not mean it will hold up here or be fun for me.
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What I would like to see is a rematch, this time with both parties keeping their cool and playing fair. Since there is complaint of the Master's playing favorites, I will GM the re-match alone.
Adriel: Please come back. One duel should not be enough to make you leave. I lost my first duel here due to rule mis-understandment myself, but note that I am still here. So come back and enjoy yourself. Get over this, and move on.
Jerina: Remember you are still only an apprentice. While one can praise their character all they want, and make them a god, all it does is take away from the fun of slowly making your character better and have them learn over time. Try to remember that you are not better than everyone, that there is someone out there who can and will beat you. No one is perfect or invincible.
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Hobarth Kivar
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Supreme Commander Marix. That was fairly said and the words of a gentleman. I apologize to you for disrupting your forum in defense of my friend Adriel.
I can't promise anything but I will speak with her. Her writing skills are such that I would like to see her submit some to Star Wars for review. I think this was a good place for her to even improve those skills more. She had a couple of terrible experiences on the internet and two of us (male friends- she's my girlfriend's best friend) often move to make sure she has no more bad experiences. I will see what I can do. Thank you for your assessment of the situation which is the fairest I have seen.
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High Prophet Crozeus
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Yes, thank you, Supreme Commander. I will talk with my sister as I believe she has been writing up a back story. Kivar - No hard feelings?
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Hobarth Kivar
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Crozeus- no hard feelings. Same for you I hope.
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Sovereign Defender Tarna
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(( Thank you, Marix. Calm and collected as always. Jerina, if Adriel does return you shall re-start the duel. If she does not, I will be satisfied with your one on the Beta Site. ))
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High Prophet Crozeus
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((Kivar, will you stay on this site? You are clearly intelligent enough to write good posts, I beleive you would be good here.))
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Supreme Commander Alor
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Hobarth Kivar: All I did was come from outside of the argument, without attachment to either party. That is what the GM is supposed to be, which is why I think Masters would only be able to give pointers to their apprentice and comment on, but not affect, the duel.
I came in with a level head, without a previous bias already built up. You came in with the only purpose to defend Adriel, and so your posts formed around that goal instead of the actual problem.
But Crozeus makes a good point, you should stay. We can use literate and intelligent members.
Crozeus: Making a backstory is fine, it is when someone makes their character a god and thinks that they can defeat everyone, that is when it is wrong.
Tarna: When have I ever not been calm and collected? And great, now you put all the weight on my duel with your apprentice... I am sure she will learn something from it...
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High Prophet Crozeus
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| Hobarth Kivar wrote: | | Crozeus- no hard feelings. Same for you I hope. |
Of course.
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Hobarth Kivar
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I thank you all kindly for the compliment. I joined two sites then only had time for one. I work a lot of hours at a job where everyone is pretty spooked right now and we're all locked and loaded. I'm the boy in charge so I am doing extra shifts. I like this site and would like to stay. I spent more time on the other site as they need posters. Right now my threads are quiet.
I wll come up with a bio and then I will look at my schedule and give it a try. Long as you don't mind the southern style sometimes. True to my roots.
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High Prophet Crozeus
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Of course. Which hurricane is at your doorstep?
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Hobarth Kivar
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No hurricane. I was in the Special Forces (Green Berets) and when I left I was lucky enough to get a really good job. I am the supervisor for a security agency. We supply guards, surveillance equipment etc. to banks and businesses. I am in charge of the guards.
With the bad economy robberies are up. Everyone is seeing 'robbers in the shadows.' Some of what we do involves bonds and gemstones, stuff that involves courier type activities to really wealthy people. I have been doing most of those. Spooked people get themselves and innocent bystanders killed. Busy I am. But I'm a Southern style cowboy type that loves his fun too. I like rping. Didn't think I would at first, but I do. Adriel is the one who got me started.
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High Prophet Crozeus
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Awesome. Now I know a guy who was in the US green berets. Although the RMC may be slightly harder to acquire.
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Hobarth Kivar
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Pleased you think its awesome. Any questions, just ask. I will give you all the info you wnat. I am going to be talking with Adriel in a little while.
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Darth Malice
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[OOC:......I'm a little speechless. I feel like I've been gone for weeks when it has only been two days. Excellent save by our Supreme Commander. I think it may be wise to lock this thread. I'll keep my opinions on this entire matter to the PMs. Just glad to see things were 'smoothed' over. Let's hope anyway.]
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Cameron Krill
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Please delete as i didn't know this was a private training session.
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Darth Malice
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[OOC: Krill you will void your post in this thread and open one of your own. This is closed for all except Adriel and Jerina if they wish to restart their duel.]
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High Prophet Crozeus
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((Even then it would be best to start a new one. Do you think this should be deleted?))
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Darth Suspiria
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{I am ready to restart the duel with Jerina and myself.}
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Darth Malice
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[I have already requested that it be deleted.]
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Sovereign Defender Tarna
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(( If anything, it would be locked. Besdies, Adriel wants to restart. If Jerina should like to re-start, then the duel should just start again in this thread with a neutral moderator. ))
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High Prophet Crozeus
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((I offered to duel both my apprentice, Krill, and Jerina and Adriel. Jerina and Krill are fine with that and I have left it open for Adriel too.))
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Darth Malice
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[Sorry. I meant locked rather than deleted, but I think it would also be best to start an entirely new thread if they wish to duel one another.]
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