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another would have to be the old Armor Core games, they were all practically the same with nothing new, practically no plot, and the graphics were exactly the same, plus the mechs seemed way to slow, and the boosters would run out after like 2 seconds. plus the game would get so hard after a couple missions you had to either make a mech that doesn't suit you or you are screwed. but they really changed it with AC4, the game is amazing to me, graphics are uber, gameplay a lot better, plot is still confusing, and the game is a bit easier depending on the frame you start out with!  _________________ "Still......the choice is all yours....."- Alucard
"Thing is, you've forgotten one, very important thing."
"And what's that?"
"I'm Captain Jack Sparrow!"
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