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 PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:42 pm Reply with quote  
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  Emperor Shadow
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We're moving ahead on a general physical and exploration Order.

But, feel free to discuss additional new Orders.
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 PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 9:47 am Reply with quote  
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  Arik Creed
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Here was my entry.

Name:
Sith Philosophers

Rank Structure:
Rank I: Student
Rank II: Sith Cultist I
Rank III: Sith Cultist II
Rank IV: Sith Cultist III
Rank V: Sith Philosopher

The highest rank achievable is Sith Philosopher. The Emperor/Council of your choosing has direct command over the Order.


How would you conduct the Sith Philosopher's business?
The role of a Philosopher is that of knowlege. They are tasked with studying the Dark Side to achieve more knowlege of it, then passing that knowledge to new generations of Sith. I would suggest the Philosophers recieve their own enclave to study within. The Philosophers act as advisors to the Empire, studying the strengths and weaknesses of past Sith. Recovering artifacts would also be a mission of the Philosophers.

What would you do to differentiate this Order from the rest?
The Order is not based purely on violence or purely on the Force. It finds a nice mix of study and exploration. The Sith Philosophers have no real leader other than the Emperor. All findings made by Philosophers will be made public via the Order's board.

Knowledge will keep the Empire strong.
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That seems like a fusion of the Church and the Exploration Order.
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  Arik Creed
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Darth Serratus wrote:
That seems like a fusion of the Church and the Exploration Order.


Haha, yeah. I made it to counter Jedi tri-structure.

Jedi Guardian- Inquisitor, Military
Jedi Consular- Church
Jedi Sentinal- Philosopher
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Well Darth Suspiria has already suggested an exploration Order which ecovers artifacts which I augmented with being responsible for containg outbreaks of Force power and Sithspawn. And the Church already act as advisors, study the Force and the High Historian is in charge of the studying the past, which would include past Sith.
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Here is whats I think. It is not literally what you need but something involves exploration. The Exploration of Ultimate Force, Potentium.

Name:
Order of Potentium

Rank Structure:
Rank I: Sith Shadow
Rank II: Sith Omen
Rank III: Sith Wraith
Rank IV: Sith Revenant
Rank V: Sith Lich
Rank VI: Sith Lich King

Sith Lich King is the godly leader of the order

What do Potentium members do?
Members just emphasize on learning all aspects of Force from oldest to newest from any source they can get. Members will also get enhanced with forgotten magic. (elemental bending, summoning etc.) High ranked members are somewhat unbeatable at Force but all are very weak at physical fighting except Liches. (They are ghost like creatures so immune to physical force, but they are vulnerable when a Force-antidote like Ysalamari is present)

What do Sith Lich & Lich King do?
Sith Lich is the highest rank of this order and Lich King is their chosen leader to lead the cult. Liches are like literally force ghosts in full contact with real world but away from human emotions. They know even the deepest secrets of Force, both Jedi, Sith and unknown teachings. Lich King is enhanced with much more Force being able to blend itself with the Ultimate Source. Normally, it has no difference than other liches, but when needed, Lich King can be transformed into Force itself by i.e. a ritual and then it becomes a total destruction for a time period (Those guys like Ringwraiths (liches) and Sauron (king) from LOTR). Once a Lich King transforms into Ultimate Force, it can never come back, so a new Lich King has to be chosen.

Some notes.
-Site's promotion system is fast, but being a Lich must have some requirements like being a member for more than a year, 5000+ posts etc (just examples)
-Sith Shadow and Sith Omen are somewhat weak opponents to face. They are not physical warriors nor force warriors yet. An advanced apprentice can beat an omen easily.


Thats all for now - Open for addition, ideas etc.
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That's somewhat more mystical than we're looking for. I think elements of that could be pulled by this proposed Order AND the Church to make a perfect blend of what you seek.
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Perhaps the undeath should be cut?
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Not really. The ancient Sith practised Necromancy, a subject I recently did an experiment on.
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I just gave those names to be mystical. Only Liches will be like Liches - others are symbolic. Also as Crozeus said, necromancy is not fanon in SW
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Such things would belong in the alchemical wing of the Church. I like where it's going, but does that tie in with the Order we had proposed?
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The problem is, we don't have anyone versed well enough in Alchemy enough to do things like that. So, a proposition springs to mind - having the best parts of Alchemy inco-operated into it.
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I'm pretty sure the Supreme Prophet would be able to do this...unless you doubt his power?
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Of course not... but he is a very busy man, and doesn't find the time to spend hours, or even days performing complex spells.
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That still doesn't mean he cannot do it.
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Even with the undeath limited to Liches, what Sith would realistically allow himself to be killed? Sith strive on pain, anger, hunger, greed, many things, but they don't strive on death.
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Darth Crozeus, you seem well versed to work with Elric to bring this aspect into the Church.
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Being a Lich means you are unbeatable at Force and invulnerable by physical. Its the dream of every Sith - Immortality and Power
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Yes, but that is what we called godmodding.
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And having an Order of those people could mean rebellion.
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And I'm not ready to try rebels yet.
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Thats why it has to have strict requirements
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Elric de Odin wrote:
Thats why it has to have strict requirements


But it's still godmodding.
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Quite right. The aspect is a good one, yet it will need to be... dumbed down a little. Being invincible is kinda cheating. Emperor - shall I discuss the potentials with Elric?
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The point of restrictions is also to give that rank just to real people who dedicated self to site. Anyway, if a member is capable enough to reach that level, he or she has to know how to roleplay fairly, so i dont think there will be too much problems



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