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 PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 9:43 am Reply with quote  
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  High Mage Serratus
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No, it's a child at a stage of life in which there is no brain activity.


No, it's a parasite. :\ It's a lump of cells attached to a woman that is draining her nutrients. Don't try any of that potential life crap. By that logic, we should all spend our lives in panic rooms wrapped in kevlar and perspex. I mean there's always the potential that Hulk Hogan will break into our homes and maul is with a butter knife.
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If you were to not fund the healthcare, you wouldn't be funding abortion yes, but neither would you be funding the other vital services they provide.


So? Just because there's good in the things you are funding doesn't rid us of the fact that there is evil as well.

A parasite? Really? By definition, yes, it is a parasite, but let's look deeper.

It is a parasite constructed from the chromosomes of male and female HUMAN BEINGS! At this point, it is unable to survive on its own, but it is a human being. Just because it is physically reliant on its parent doesn't mean it is non-human.

I have two btw's:

1) Before the 60's you'd probably be mobbed/arrested for bringing up the topic of - at the time illegal- abortions.

2) The Church of England ticks me off. Here's their religious opinion:

"Life begins at conception... but abortion is still okay."

That is the truth.... Sad
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Yes, it is a parasite constructed from the chromosomes of male and female HUMAN BEINGS!

It's still a parasite.

1) Are you advocating mobbing/arresting of people who are pro-abortion? But that has the potential to cause harm to human life!

2) The Roman Catholic Church ticks me off. Here's their religious opinon;

"If a twelve-year-old is brutally gang-raped by her family and is going to die giving birth to a deformed, disabled child that will be as unmoving and as unfeeling as the dead until the day it joins them, she will burn for eternity in the fires of hell for having an abortion."

Do you realise how ridiculous you sound?
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Wait, wait. You mean you don't sit around in Kevlar and Perspex?

I need to rethink some things...
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 PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 12:29 pm Reply with quote  
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1) No, I am pointing out is was culturally unacceptable "back in the day" to talk about abortion, let alone do it (it was illegal too). I am not advocating an attack.

2) About the parasite, yes the life form is Dependant on its mother and is,in fact, a parasite. However, it is a HUMAN PARASITE! It is still a human being: parasitic or not.

3) I was pointing out a hypocritic statement, not a flaw in a belief system. You, however, seem to think that the Church (and I do take offense to that comment: I am Roman Catholic) is a ridiculous bunch of cold, dim-witted pansies.

I disagree. Please read more on the Church rather than throwing unsupported "facts" at me. Do you know what reconciliation is? Also, the opinion of the Catholic Church is that a medical procedure can, to save a mother in danger, indirectly kill the fetus. A direct killing of the fetus is murder, but understand that the result of an operation killing the unborn child- but not in an attempt to kill the child- is understandable.

Do you realize how idiotic you sound? Go do some research on belief systems, or even just use WIKIPEDIA if you're lazy. Buy the Cataclysm of the Catholic Church if you want to criticize us.
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Okay, I apologize.... I just felt like I should retaliate, but I realize it was immature....  Confused
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Please keep on topic. The purpose of this thread is to discuss pre-marital sex, the pros/cons, "rights" and "wrongs." If you wish to discuss consequences of birth or maturity, a separate topic may be created.
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Any abortion discussion should be in the abortion thread.


though Seti pretty much owned any pro-life argument already.
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This abortion subject seems to come up everywhere. Just about everyone I know has sex. 'Friends with benefits' is the deal. No ties, no commits, just sex.
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Which is wrong, but not legally so.
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I think it depends on your point of view if it is wrong or not. I know lots of people who don't think it is. I really don't myself.
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High Mage Serratus wrote:
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No, it's a child at a stage of life in which there is no brain activity.


No, it's a parasite. :\ It's a lump of cells attached to a woman that is draining her nutrients. Don't try any of that potential life crap. By that logic, we should all spend our lives in panic rooms wrapped in kevlar and perspex. I mean there's always the potential that Hulk Hogan will break into our homes and maul is with a butter knife.


My good sir, can I use that qote on Rebels? It's brilliant!
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Yeah Serratus, cool post. If we lived by 'potential' we'd be in trouble for sure. How many 'potentials' are there? Millions? Infinite?
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You can indeed Cruiciatus. And thank you Merlot.
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No prob man. I think you're right on the money.



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