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 PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:26 am Reply with quote  
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  Lord Legacy
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how do u think darth sideous kept himself secret all these years from the jedi i mean he was so unbelievably powerful and adept in the dark side of the force you would of though somebody like yoda would of noticed or do u think that sideous was even more powerful than yoda and therefore could cloak himself to be hidden from even the most powerful jedi
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  Supreme Prophet Praxeum
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Force Concealment can be used by highly skilled Force-users to mask their Force alignment (Light or Dark), their ability to use the Force, or even their entire presence from others who are Force sensitive.

This ability manifests in different forms; Vergere would shrink her presence in the Force to a microscopic size, where she was almost undetectable and able to avoid mental attacks, even from Luke Skywalker. Palpatine was the most powerful and notorious user of this power, having hid his dark nature for over three decades from the Jedi Council, even when in the same room. Revan used the technique to shield his true light-side affiliation on Korriban in order to infiltrate the Sith Academy. Darth Traya used a powerful version of this to evade both the surviving Jedi and her Sith apprentices, as well as mask her nature from her own student, the Jedi Exile. Millennia later, Granta Omega used this power to disguise his dark-side nature from Anakin Skywalker and Obi-Wan Kenobi. It is unknown exactly which derivative of Force Concealment Omega employed. Other users included the Jensaarai, who constantly hid their presence in the Force from both the Sith under Darth Vader and the New Jedi Order. The spirit of Exar Kun most likely used this power to escape detection by Luke Skywalker when he founded his Jedi Praxeum on Yavin IV, as he was only discovered and destroyed upon revealing himself to the trainees at the academy.

It is also speculated that this is the power used by Darth Bane to escape Kaan's thought bomb.

One of the more prevalent derivatives of Force Concealment was the Quey'tek meditation. When properly applied and maintained, a Sith Lord or Dark Jedi could mask their own dark signatures appearing completely benevolent to even the most powerful and alert Jedi.

Known users of the Quey'tek meditation included Asajj Ventress, Dooku (although Obi-Wan Kenobi and Anakin Skywalker were eventually able to see through his shielding), and possibly Darth Maul. Jacen Solo also used this technique to hide Lumiya's dark presence.

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Praxeum, care to provide a source for that quote? Wikipedia, or what?

In game terms, Darth Sidious had Force Stealth (the RPG name for the ability Praxeum describes) at probably +25, which simply using the "take ten" rule of the RPG, means any See Force roll directed at him would have a -35 penalty. Since he has 17 Force-using levels, that means spotting him with See Force has a DC 43. (For perspective, the rulebook's example of a DC 40 "nearly impossible" skill check is to "track a Wookiee through the forests of Kashyyyk on a moonless night after 12 days of rainfall".)

Amusingly, no version of Sidious' stats in the main rulebook or the DS Sourcebook give him any ability with this skill at all, and I consider the stats they've written for him to be one of the better examples of how much they simply did not think very much about the abilities that some characters demonstrate when doing the write-up. (The stats for Sidious in the DS Sourcebook aren't even possible using the rules they provide, as he doesn't fulfill the requirements for his prestige classes.)

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Wikipedia, also "Force Concealment" is not a canon name but rather the nickname of the power since none has been given.
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  Sovereign Defender Tarna
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When Tarna uses it, I call it "Force Stealth."



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